16 October 2019
- Some dogs stick around by chance. Ella was kind of the case. She had a very appealing head piece and expression, so she stayed with us. Years passed
and started falling for her. Here is my greying Ella. Kind of sad to see the testament of time on her face now :(
21 September 2019
- Outside fun
17 September 2019
- Happy buyers = happy breeder
10 September 2019
- Royal is his name.
10 September 2019
- Our breeding
15 August 2019
- Someone had fun )) what am I gonna do...
10 August 2019
- Gorgeous crop
24 July 2019
17 May 2019
- Spot a butterfly.
02 May 2019
- I AM A BREEDER...
My food receipts for a family of 6 and my dog food bills match. My electric has trippled, I have more whelping supplies than I do medicine and first aid supplies.
I have vaccines in my fridge, oxygen tanks on hand, my vet on speed dial and multiple puppy pens in my living room.
I am a Breeder, who when my fridge quit, saved the dog meds and let the food go bad. My feet find the way to the puppy pens before I have even ate breakfast in the morning and the puppy pens are my last stop before bed.
While my friends are on a cruise to the Bahamas and my family meets for Christmas I am home delivering or hand feeding puppies. I haven't had a real vacation in a while but maybe soon.
All plans are made around heat dates, whelp dates, puppies going to their new homes and vet dates.
I am a Breeder, who has been covered in more bodily fluids from my dogs on more occasions than I care to admit. Bleach is my favorite cleaning product and my home typically smells like a community pool.
Most of the time my conversations with friends revolves around my dogs. When I get exhausted and feel like I can't do another sleepless night hand feeding a puppy around the clock every 2 hours I remind myself religiously that the hand feeding is only temporary and the reward is coming.
I am breeder who sacrifices my own comfort to sleep on the floor next to a whelping pen so I can hear every time a puppy makes a squeak or to jump up in a panic making sure I didn't over sleep and not hear my alarm for the next 2 hour puppy feeding. Many people wouldn't understand how it feels to have invested hours and hours in a weak puppy to ultimately lose it and how it can feel the same as loosing a child or the joy I feel when all the invested hours have paid off in one that lives.
I am a Breeder, who has bottle fed, syringe and even sponge fed a puppy doing whatever it takes feeding every 2 hours and it taking 45 minutes to do it for weeks at a time to ensure it's survival. I have learned to be proficient at vaccinations, sub- q fluids, syringe feeding, warm water enemas, temperature taking and formulated and perfected my own puppy formula. My Vet knows me by my first name, knows my children, and has witnessed me cry countless times.
I am a Breeder, to me that 63 days takes on new meaning still excited by every new life. I am right there when all my pups are born, towels and heating pads on ready, happiness and sadness sometimes intermingled. It is I who has breathed the first breath of life into a puppy who has refused to take that first breath. Even though it increases my work load, I look forward to the 14 day stage when eyes open, and puppies begin to emerge from the helplessness of newborns.Puppy breath, a first bark, and a heart of exploration. I am a conscientious lover of animals and I have found my niche.
I am a Breeder, and I am not cruel, dumb, uncaring or criminal. I take great responsibility for every life I bring into this world and ensure it goes to a wonderful, loving and perfect home an extension of the same love and care they received while in my own home. I am not raking in money while sitting on my butt. Every penny I make I earn through blood, sweat, hard work and tears. My greatest joy is a healthy puppy and a wonderful home. The card of thanks and the pictures of my puppies with their new families are the fringe benefits of my efforts.
I am an animal lover, nurse, midwife, heavy laborer, customer service representative and marketer and PROUDLY I AM A BREEDER!
01 March 2019
Many people think we make a killing off these cats and are "only in it for the money". When the reality is, it's so much more work than I ever thought it would be and I definitely "earn" my money. As my mom likes to say "you scoop poop for a living". Such a glamorus job! My fellow breeder friend Trish Savannahs just posted an eye opening article she wrote of what it's REALLY like to be a breeder. She says it way better than I can so I'm sharing her writings. I couldn't agree more with everything she wrote. Regardless of the down sides, my passion keeps me going. And the help of my amazing children, spouse and breeder friends make all the difference.
"Why YOU Should Be a Breeder
Let's flip the script a bit and talk about why you should become a breeder. You've found the breed of your dreams, you love it (dog or cat) and you simply want to produce adorable squishy faced babies to sell.
Alright. We all begin somewhere, so instead of discussing why you shouldn't become a breeder-let's talk about all of the perks about being one.
First, we are going to cover money. Because everyone loves money-and money makes the world go round!
Now, I'm not going to say there's no ability to make a profit with breeding and doing it responsibly. Instead let's walk through a good year… You produce four litters this year of five babies each. You sell these kittens or puppies for $2000. What a great year-- you just netted $40,000!
But wait… Out of that $40,000-you spent $300 a month on quality food. You spent $200 a month on various routine vet visits (vaccines, checkups, etc.). You spent $1000 on health testing because both the mom and dad needed various health checks before breeding. You spent $5000 on emergency vet appointments because trust me-babies like to keep you on your toes! You are out $1500 on basic supplies (new kennels, enclosures, litter, etc) and $1000 on toys because you can't have babies running around with nothing to play with! If you practice early spay and neuter (most dog breeders don't, but a lot of cat breeders do)-we can estimate $100 per baby for alter surgeries so that is $2000 out of pocket.
Well, that's not too bad, right? Now your $40,000 is $23,500. Oh wait-you also went to a few cat or dog shows because a reputable breeder likes to ensure they are on the top of their game. That's about $2000 more out the door, but we will stop there. Let's say in the end-you net $20,000 because you had an amazing year breeding and produced 4 litters.
Now take that $20,000 and divide it by 365 days a year--- you're still doing great! You are making $54 a day! However that $54 a day is 24/7 work. It's clean up, it's midwife duty, it's midnight vet runs and trips to the pet store. It's talking to other breeders to maintain breed education, it's skipping vacations because your pregnant dog or cat is due right on that day. It's missing school performances because a newborn is sick and it's staying up all night for weeks on end hand feeding an infant that cannot get the hang of nursing. So $54 a day divided by 24 hours is $2.25 an hour.
I mean-not chump change, right? It's at least some kind of profit for your passion and who doesn't want to profit from something they love?
Just remember-this is a hypothetical good year. A lot of breeders never see this hypothetical good year. They see a lot of vet bills, they see a lot of struggle, they see a lot of debt-but what they don't see is this profitable good year and the one time they might see it-it passes quickly into another year filled with high vet bills and loss.
Okay, okay, but I am trying to convince you to breed-not to run away from the thought screaming. So how about all of the happiness involved in raising newborns? How about holding babies when they are just born and getting to kiss puppies and kittens all day long? That has to be a positive aspect of breeding every breeder gets to experience!
Not so fast, not so fast. There are people who have invested into breeding-good reputable want-to-be breeders who have paired up their animals, done the health testing and never seen a single litter. There are breeders who have done the same and held premature dead or dying babies in their hands as tears stream down their face. So breeding-as silly as it might seem-does not guarantee kittens or puppies.
But let's go with another good year. Let's say that yes, you have babies and they are born healthy. Now it's ensuring mom is nursing them, it's weighing them daily, it's trying to give mom a nice quiet place that mom likes to raise her family, it's keeping the house pristine to ensure no random virus enters the household (have you ever tried to keep a house medically sterile while still going to the vet and going to cat or dog shows and I mean going shopping or to school?)
If you are lucky-you have a healthy litter that encounters no bumps or bruises along the way. Meanwhile, you are committed to maintaining a clean environment (this means sweeping/mopping/cleaning 24-7 whether it's puppies or kittens because babies love stepping in poop and then just keep going!). It means you are committed to being there even when your family may need you elsewhere. It means devoting yourself to this litter for at least ten weeks for puppies to 12-16 weeks for kittens.
But hey, at least you get the joy of cuddling a kitten or puppy when you aren't busy cleaning up after them!
Again-this is a good year. Because guess what? Oh yes-the bad years are going to come too. And those bad years involve a lot of loss. They involve a lot of second guessing. Midnight vet runs. Constant discussion with your vet, other breeders, woulda/shoulda/couldas… There will be years where nothing goes right.
Hmmm… Okay, okay-this all seems rather discouraging. So why not talk about potential pet homes and the joy of finding new homes? That can be rather uplifting-when things go right.
Of course, you are going to deal with dozens of tire kickers, the occasional crazy person, and drama long the way, but eventually, you will find amazing buyers for your babies. At least-you hope they are amazing.
For the most part, if you are diligent, they will be the best of homes, but when you misjudge… When you misjudge a home, it can turn into a nightmare situation, but let's just not talk about that.
Sigh… Apparently I'm not doing the best at convincing you that breeding is worth it. How about owning unaltered pets? Isn't that a joy?
Um- yeah, that one I simply can't put a single positive spin on. Unaltered cats pee everywhere. They pee on their beds, their hammocks, their cat wheels, the walls and in their water and food bowls. They caterwaul in heat, out of heat, when they feel like it-why? Hormones. That's why. Unaltered dogs lift their legs, get possessive, fight, can be moodier than your average spayed/neutered pet. Again-- hormones.
Do we love them? Of course, we do, but you know what? I would love them more if I wasn't spending my days scrubbing pee from every surface.
So why do we breed? Because we are passionate about the breeds we work with. Because we believe someone has to do this responsibly and because we are good at animal husbandry.
For myself, I cut my teeth working with rescues for over a decade before choosing to have a litter of my own. I also worked as a vet tech. I educated myself for years and continue to educate myself. I use my mentors even a decade later for advice and talk to newer breeders for a fresh point of view.
Breeding simply isn't for the faint of heart. It isn't for people who cannot take loss, criticism or advice from others. Breeding can break you. It can take the toughest person out there and simply snap their heart in two-and it will do it time and time again. I'm not talking from a lofty pedestal-I am just as capable of breaking as the next person and have found myself literally on my knees with tears streaming down my face more than once in this business/hobby/passion.
If you want to do this-go into it with your eyes wide open. Accept criticism. Accept harsh advice because guess what? In the middle of the night when you are trying to hold death back, that person giving you that advice may also be the person willing to stay up with you and hold your hand throughout the long dark hours.
And know-it's not rainbows and unicorns. It's f***** hard. Harder than you will ever imagine from the outside and some days, it's totally worth it. But realize there will be dark days where it's not… And we have lost more amazing respectable breeders to those dark days than I can count."
18 February 2019
- Beautiful crop.
18 February 2019
- Nice crop.
13 February 2019
- Someone is a happy momma now.
- When you persistently ask your parents for a Doberman year after year after year...and then finally it happens!
07 February 2019
- Our mini girl waiting to go see her new mom.
04 January 2019
- I'm coming to the conclusion that the environment does play a big role in the overall dog health.
We are on the well water, plus country living, little pollution, the Kennel is in the mountains in the middle of a national forest, plus decent food, raw eggs - it will be 12 years this spring since I lost a dog to DCM (not counting the German import we only had for 4 months), and currently have 7 veteran dogs.
Baron and Jake, loved and spoiled with raw beef bones by Karen :)
06 December 2018
05 December 2018
- Did a lot of research. List of some of the recommended veterinarians who still crop ears:
- TX. O’Connor road animal hospital.
- DE. Dr. Brittany M Faison.
- PA, $200 Ebensburgh, Dr. James Takacs.
- WA. Dr Victoria Peterson. GRANITE Falls WA. $300/500
- TX. Ear Trim in Houston.
- Warrensville animal center
- Oregon mid-valley veterinary clinic
- PA. Sidman. Dr. Hamady.
- FL Wildwood, Leigh McBride. Sumter County Animal Hospital.
- FL. MidCounty Vet, Palm beach.
- FL. 4Paws in Lakeland FL. $350
- FL. Dr Ricci newtampavet.com - Douglasville animal hospital.
- GA. Dr Steele in chatsworth.
- Kaitlyn Shea Martin. Murray county veterinarian service.
- Quailwood Animal Hospital in Tifton.
- OH. Anne Midgarden in Wapokoneta.
- CA. 675 South Sacramento pet hospital.
- IA. Dr Jodi Strohbehn in Council Bluff, Iowa.
- CA. Riverside Animal Hospital. Dr Jezberra.
- CA. Dr. Zaralli in Seal Beach.
- GA. Dr. Bassham in Georgia! Bassham Vet Hospital.
- Rutherford Road & Hwy 400 Animal Hospital (Dr. Kahlon).
- GA. Dr. Walker at Highlands Animal Hospital in Augusta.
- MI. Dr Main. Alagan, Michigan.
- IN. Dr. Yerk. Remington Indiana.
- IN. Southway vet clinic in Marion Indiana.
- MI. Dr Joel Parraghi in Crosswell.
- Blackhorse animal hospital $430.
- NJ. Millstone animal hospital. Freehold.
- CA. American pet hospital Modesto.
- Dr Zaralli in Seal Beach.
04 December 2018
- They grow too fast. Ruger 5mo.
02 December 2018
- Our breeding.
02 December 2018
- Waiting for and meeting the new mommy.
12 October 2018
- And again about DCM.
Many buyers have read on various websites or forums the magic formula on how to avoid DCM:
1. tested parents
2. older parents
3. 3 generations DCM-free.
All this sounds great but...
1. tested parents don't guarantee which genes are passed: healthy or mutated. There are plenty of examples of long-lived parents producing DCM offspring.
2. Older males tend to not reproduce well. The older they get, the higher chance of reproduction issues (they can become sterile with age). Older females also may have breeding and delivering issues. No guarantee they will be capable of any of that either.
3. I wish I could find DCM pedigrees. And not just one. In breeding you need a variety of them so you don't end up inbreeding or out of options.
Studying pedigrees is a great tool in breeding. Here is an example of how this formula doesn't work.
* https://doberbase.ru/index.php...Heredity - all looks great, no noted DCM deaths in the background, tested parents, tested dog, decent longevity. BUT scroll down and you will this dog's sibling already dead of DCM.
There many more cases like this.
Here is one more: Ardens Izumrud
Although there are DCM dogs in the pedigree - this dog is still alive and well at 11yo.
As you see, finding one healthy dog is quite a task, not only for a buyer but for a breeder too.
4 October 2018
- One of many reasons why I try to stay away from selling our puppies for breeding.
3 October 2018
- DCM can strike at any age. No one is safe. Although, if that's the case, what's left to breed?????????
3 October 2018
- Check out Onyx' muscles.
I "love" how some Doberman owners boast having a 100-110-120 pound Doberman but he is not fat, just all muscle... surrrrre! :) #ourbreeding
1 October 2018
- Long-awaited puppies.
30 September 2018
- Our Iris.
30 September 2018
- Got a hello from Ruger, 3mo. Mr. Feet!!! #ourbreeding
27 September 2018
- Dimetra. Health scare. Noticed a round belly for a few days, suspected a growing tumor, mentally said good-bye to her. Well, 5 days of vet stay and $800 later, apparently she is in great health, just has a big spleen. 9 years 3 months old and counting.
P.S. US veterinary bills can't stop amazing me...
23 September 2018
- My girl.
18 September 2018
- Nice ears! #ourbreeding
17 September 2018
- My guys. Finally one dry day after too much rain.
14 September 2018
06 September 2018
- Apollo and his son Emidius. Cropped or natural?
28 July 2018
- Proof how tricky DCM is:
How could a dog with such a pedigree live to 12???? Not only does it have lots of Royal Bell, Irinus (DCM), it is also inbred on Gino. And the dog lives past 12!!! I know that I don't know what makes it work and fail anymore. My imported puppy from tested older parents drops dead of DCM at 8 months and here is a dog with lots of questionable ancestors that lived so long! How????
25 July 2018
- Any one else wonders while I'm against little kids and a new puppy scenario?
15 July 2018
- I can't stop talking about DCM. The problem is so serious and doesn't seem to have a solution. With all available information and diagnostics, there is still no answer when this is going to be fixed.
Not too long ago there was a post on Facebook from a Spanish breeder, kudos to him for speaking up!
1. DCM is everywhere. How can it not be if the affected rate is at 50-60%?
2. Some breeders breed and analyze their results, and if DCM pops up - they try to adjust their program.
3. Some breeders breed what sells and wins titles, no matter when the dogs die.
4. Some breeders care.
5. Some don't give a hoot.
#2 and #4 cannot be blamed. They didn't create the problem and usually they don't contribute to its spreading.
#3 and #5 are the ones who make it worse and worse.
Note: the current DCM testing by DNA is USELESS.
14 July 2018
- It's extremely sad where the breeding in the USA is heading... The availability of dogs that can be used in breeding without minimal oversight is shocking. Anyone can breed anything they want. Land of freedom... I always put "No breeders" or "limited registration" in my ads. And I know that this means some business loss: a large chunk of buyers is left out because "full papers" are not available. And those who sell their cheap and often times poorly bred puppies with full rights use this as a selling advantage as if breeding rights become the biggest selling advantage of a particular puppy or litter... very-very sad...
13 July 2018
- Too often has this come up in discussions with the buyers. This is a ridiculous myth!!!!
13 July 2018
- Some buyers can be quite delusional. 4th notch? You can't even find one on a day old puppy! Non-smoker breeder? Oh my.
Some buyers complain of dealing with breeders. Same applies to the buyers.
12 July 2018
- Pups at the vet. All our pups are vet checked prior to going to new homes.
01 July 2018
- What you get is what you pay for.
Compare the quality.
26 June 2018
- Finally got the results of the DNA testing from the Doberman genetic diversity project, but in fact it's just a DNA panel. The only useful info for $130 I got was the genetic diversity %. Everything else (vwd and useless DM or DCM) could have been tested for less $. And I didn't get the DNA markup to show the inbred alleles, like in the advertising photos. :(
And not sure what to do with this genetic diversity % now without the explanation.
25 June 2018
- Our Delux' baby, Yarby Yara. Almost 10 years old!
27 May 2018
- Highly enriching reading on inbreeding.
"Inbreeding in dogs has real consequences. Research in the Boyko Lab has shown that a 10% increase in inbreeding can lead to a 6% reduction in adult size (poor growth) and a six- to ten-month reduction in lifespan. Reduced litter size and fertility are also likely."
15 May 2018
- Medical Screening: Responsible Breeding or the Road to Extinction?
Jim Engel, December 2007
5 May 2018
- Poop business.
An excellent way to stay on top of your dog’s health is to monitor what comes out of him, otherwise known as feces/stool/poop. It’s important to know your dog’s “normal” when it comes to poop
The most obvious symptom of a health problem in dogs is diarrhea, which has several characteristics that vary depending on the cause
There are several potential causes of diarrhea in dogs, ranging from a change in diet to cancer
It’s time to call the veterinarian if the diarrhea doesn’t resolve on its own in a day or so, or if your dog is showing other signs of illness
By Dr. Becker. What's 'Normal' Poop for Your Dog? (Word with photo)
30 April 2018
- Today's rant.
Probably many of you have heard about the new Doberman Diversity Project. I found it quite intriguing.
The biggest problem with the offered genetic test is the cost and the diseases screened by it. Since it's a new project, most of the breeding dogs worldwide have already been tested for the diseases (DCM1,2, vWD) offered at the cost of $130-135.
I'm not interested in retesting all my dogs all over again just to get their genetic diversity profile - that's the only thing I find useful to me.
Retesting 10 dogs just to get their genetic diversity graph will run around $1350 while they can offer a separate DNA test just for that for $40-50. Big difference, right?
Hope the lab can offer a separate test just for those who have already run other DNA tests on their dogs. I guarantee there will be a lot more people interested.
As of right now I don't think it's reasonable to retest my dogs just for one graph.
P.S. I ordered one test for one of my dogs that hasn't been vWD and DCM tested. It's been exactly 3 weeks - no test...
14 April 2018
- Goofy Don.
14 April 2018
- Oldie but goodie. Delberta is 8.5 yo.
07 April 2018
- Our weekends. Pups being affectionate with the visitors.
Puppy pick up day
02 April 2018
- Real Dober-men have two balls!
30 March 2018
- Our big and very sweet puppy, Cash, at the vet, getting ready for his trip to his new home :) he was very curious about this unfamiliar dog.
17 March 2018
- Our breeding. Nice ear crops. It's a lot of hard work to get them to stand up. And there are times when they don't.
6 March 2018
- This is a prime example of how unpredictable DCM is:
http://doberbase.ru/index.php...Anubis+v.d.+Wartburgstadt A large litter out of a long-lived dad (but not DCM clear ancestry) and an allegedly DCM-linked mom. This combo ended up in 4 DCM deaths and 6 long lived dogs.
What a riddle this disease is!
3 March 2018
- 7y.o. Mina (P-litter) came for a visit and to find a new friend.
20 February 2018
- Me ranting:
I have joined a Facebook page where Dobe puppies are advertised for sale. One group decided to impose "Stricter" rules: breeders have to perform at least the necessary DNA tests for the betterment of the breed (which are very few - not much help for the breed). Numerous breeders advertise: DM, DCM1, VWD - clear or carrier.
DM testing for this breed is useless. This is not a Doberman-typical disease. You should request hip certification which is more spread than DM. In my 25 years with the breed I haven't seen a single case. DNA testing is cheap. But DNA testing and Hip certification PLUS at least a cardio ECHO - that's what will weed out BYB's. This simple and not very expensive DNA test won't. DCM 1 is a highly questionable test. There are too many negative dogs still dying of DCM. A much better alternative is an echo study. The full testing panel vs a one-time DNA swab will show a potential buyer who is more invested in the breed. Most of my dogs are DCM1 negative and ALL are DCM2 negative, which means, based on the 50-60% disease rate, this testing is highly unreliable. Thus I usually do not advertise the results as they do not guarantee the absence of DCM, what I do mention is that the dogs are ECHO'ed. The cost of the "real" tests (the ones that are really needed) far exceeds what most BYB's or whatever you call amateur breeders can afford and accept paying for, so they supplement this with a number of nice-looking abbreviations like vWD, DM, DCM blah-blah clear, and it's a much higher chance for your dog to get Wobbler's than this DM, or real DCM than this DCM1 and DCM2 tests can prove.
16 January 2018
I. Show/utility breeders - breeding for a purpose.
a) caring, friendly, respectful.
b) opposite to a).
c) know what they are doing,
d) opposite to c).
II. Other breeders.
a) one-timers - for "the health of the dog", for "the fun of it", "to witness the miracle of birth". Usually have one dog.
b) serial one-timers - same as a), just more often. Can have two dogs, or one dog and keep its progeny.
c) breeding for a purpose that is not a purpose - "I breed the total dobe!"
d) just because I can'ers
e) self-sustained breeding - have a male and female, nothing's needed.
g) fluffers: they put a lot of fluff into their breeding reasoning and advertising, i.e. both dogs weight over 100 lbs and stand at 30", or proudly stating that they don't breed Z-dogs, or my dogs have an awesome temperament - as if these are valid points for justifying breeding.
h) one step closer to or one step behind I. - those who do health testing but still not at the level of I. breeders, and no show/utility.
All backyard breeders fall into category II.
I love seeing how people recommend a backyard breeder they got a puppy from just because the whelping pen was clean, pups were cute and breeder friendly. That's how it's supposed to be no matter what category you are in, but if you are one of Category II - you are a backyard breeder. Difference is some are nice and some are nasty.
And most people substitute professionalism with a personal attitude. Being friendly with a buyer doesn't make you a professional and knowledgeable breeder you are supposed to be. Sales skills do not "=" good breeding.
13 January 2018
- From Northrop Grumman ad. Cyber Doberman.
12 January 2018
- In 2012 it became clear that we needed a new professionally built kennel. We started working with the zoning office to obtain all necessary paperwork to build it. All paperwork was filed and we were getting ready to finalize the process with the zoning board when one Saturday morning an unknown person appeared at the door saying she was from the local humane foundation and was a humane investigator and she was there to help us prepare for the zoning board.
Some will find this stupid, I have conflicting feelings about my actions that day, but I let her in - she sounded too official and too willing to help. All seemed to go well. She made some suggestions which, in essence, were unnecessary because the purpose of the whole process was to build a new professional facility and whatever wasn't up to her liking would have been resolved any way.
4 days before my zoning board I receive a packed with all my documentation. It looked too big than my original package so I looked through. As I start looking through it, I discover a 6-page report authored by this person. What I read was as if I was reading a horror kennel story of someone else but not me, not our dogs. My world was crushed. The next blow came within an hour of me getting this in the mail. "Someone" released it online. And there it went...
What happened after is similar to a nuclear explosion of your life. It divided it into "before" and "after". I couldn't believe someone I trusted could do this. There were no signs or indication that there was something wrong. This snake, this nasty creature, I can't call this person a human, has apparently been a serial breeder harasser. A person who so willingly and easily walks over another person's life, privacy and dignity can't be called a human.
The online post went viral and upset the community who flooded the zoning hearing with all their outcries of doing something bad to me. And I stood there not comprehending how my plan to build a good facility turned into so much bullying.
I stood there, strong, in pain, resilient and alone. I did nothing wrong. Nothing wrong. But no one listened to me. Husband suggested changing the kennel name, closing the website, changing everything. My answer was always the same: "Why? I did nothing wrong to deserve this".
The authorities were inundated with emails and calls and were not happy a simple kennel permit turned into a witch hunt. They'd come to my house unannounced: just to talk, as they said. They tried to explain that that person didn't mean it, didn't expect it to go so bad, said some things weren't written the right way in that report. I didn't care any more. I was so crushed the emotional pain went physical. Who've been extensively bullied knows the feeling. You hurt inside so much it hurts your whole body. I didn't know where to hide, how to run away from it. I stopped eating. I got paranoid because of all these friendly visits from law enforcement. I got depressed and needed help.
I lost the kennel permit, of course. Neighbors wouldn't want it close to their properties although we all have large properties. But the stories they told where shameful. I wasn't ashamed of myself, I was ashamed of what adults can lie about to get what they want.
My case opened up a few tumors.
I find it ridiculous, and I'm not a native born, so I can't justify why a kennel operator in this county needs:
1. zoning permit
2. kennel permit
3. dealer's permit
4. business license
Just for one business! Gov-t overreach? I've had a kennel permit all along but that wasn't enough. Gov-t screw up my fault?
Filing a lawsuit was a fantastic blow to the county and local hot heads who can't use logic and believe everything that's written. And everybody quickly left me alone. Lawyers DO help. Unfortunately the judge, who saw a huge conflict of interest of a humane investigator going house to house and taking animals for the shelter this investigator owned, gave this person immunity and we couldn't proceed (I suspect multi-millionaire mommy-dearest was involved).
Here I'd like to point out that the only official report there is states: "No violation of animal law." So concise and so true. And such a start difference from all the huff and puff of what caused this ridiculous nightmare.
I have built a kennel. In a different area. To begin with, the only goal I had was to build a facility and what the officials made out of a seemingly simple process is on their conscience now. Everyone will answer for their doings. The author of the report has. The county quickly denounced any doings with this person. No one hears or deals with this being any more. And the county passed a regulation forbidding people like her to enter people's premises and/or to take their animals. No more. It's been a long time coming! A decade for sure. Maybe I was meant to happen in this county - like a bump on the road that throws the driver's car off, and then someone finally does something about it. People like this person are cancerous tumors that only take away the resources from their hosts. I have a kennel, I offer services, I create, I build, I pay taxes and salaries, thus putting bread on several family's plates. And that person only lives off the work of others, not producing anything positive or creative, just living off of pain.
My new kennel was a mount Everest for a broken climber, my depression therapy, a story of resilience and survival against all odds.
Old kennel New kennel
As you see in the photos, absolutely nothing, no ground, no reason to cause the mass hysteria.
The Roberts Law firm handled the initial case. The Prados Law is the firm that guards our interests nowadays.
I want everyone to know this: I was never accused of animal cruelty and neglect yet I still get angry emails like "burn in hell". They don't hurt me, not any more. Ugly words don't hit the target. If I survived what an ordinary kennel wouldn't - I must be really good at what I'm doing. What an animal radical wrote online years ago - that's in the past. That fall didn't define me but how I managed it, what good came out of that horrible experience - that's the real deal.
I want everyone to know that our kennel is legally protected. And we will fight anyone who confuses freedom of speech with freedom of insult.
And this is my story. And I stay strong.
10 January 2018
- A little more about the ears and tails.
Everybody who has ever owner a cropped dog knows what a pain it is to post the ears. Some are lucky and ears stand up fast. But most aren't so lucky and it takes them months and meters of tape. And there is a great deal of cropped dog owners who have tried unsuccessfully.
What to do then?
Now, this is some advice to those who couldn't get the ears to stand. I don't want any bashing about how this is cruel - we are in the US.
I'm OK with cropped and natural ears, I have both kinds, and with long tails as well as docked tails. I'm OK with all that.
I personally don't like failed cropped ears.
I've tried a few options.
Here is one I discovered a couple years ago. Not all vets do this. But this has worked in 90% of corrective surgeries on my dogs.
It doesn't work on ears that fold over or are bent in. And not always on very long ear crops.
Here is a cartilage repair. The cuts are done at the base of the ear. Cartilage is moved up and adjusted.
P.S. This is done by an experienced vet!!!
Note: Scars will remain. I've had people ask me about the scars. Funny people. You want the ears standing, right?
On black dogs well-healed incisions won't be very visible.
30 December 2017
- Honestly, why does everyone think that if a puppy is older than 8 weeks and not sold something might be wrong with it?!
I'm a kennel where the goal is not to get rid of a dog but find it the right family no matter how long it takes.
I sell my dogs whenever I want to sell them, when I think they are ready to be sold... because I can... because they are my dogs... because i have space, time and a nice kennel to do so.
If a breeder drops the price due to age, you know the breeder wants to get rid of the dog. If the breeder prices the dog based on its qualities and value, such breeder appreciates the dog for characteristics more important than months and days.
Many call about an older puppy because they are easier to manage, and then prople start overthinking and scaring themselves that if the dog hasn't been sold - no one wanted it for some bad reason... Listen, don't call about older dogs and older puppies, get an 8-week old one.
As I see it, an older puppy has lots of benefits.
1. All shots are done.
2. Ears cropped, healed. And if standing, you don't need to spend meters of tape and pounds of tampons to do so. This should be an added value to the dog.
3. You can tell the dog's temperament better.
4. Crate training started. Learning to go outside for potty.
5. Not as fragile as a 8wk old once.
6. More time with siblings.
These are all benefits provided to the buyer by the breeder. Appreciate that.
And that's how it is.
28 December 2017
- We lost a dog today.
Plans, hopes - lost as well.
Pain is deep. He was only 8 months old.
He died at the vet clinic.
He died of DCM.
He was diagnosed just 2 days ago - he had troubled breathing.
He was our German import we hand picked. We could have picked any other dog around the world but we picked him.
We had so many plans for him.
What I'm going to write here is the truth about DCM. Have no illusions or high expectations.
1. He didn't have a pedigree full of long-lived dogs but, based on many established criteria, it wasn't a high risk pedigree. Both parents are not young, with clear cardio tests that are recent, coefficient of inbreeding is low, questionable ancestors are pretty far in the pedigree and they are mixed with long-lived dogs well. NONE OF THIS WORKS.
2. Various cardio tests, DNA tests, blood tests - DO NOT PREVENT THE DISEASE.
3. Current DCM tests, these DCM1 and DCM2 are NOTHING. They don't test anything. Those who demand puppies to be DCM-negative, do not understand DCM.
4. Low coefficient of inbreeding is NOTHING. Dog can still die young.
5. Tested parents don't give you any guarantee at all.
6. I do not understand how a dog as young as 8 months can die of DCM but, as you see, it can.
7. Right now I'm in the shoes of a buyer. Because I bought this dog from some other breeder. What will the breeder do after this? Would you be angry with the breeder? The breed? What would you do?
8. What will your breeder do if their puppy sold to you died of DCM so early?
9. Will we ever find a mechanism to test and avoid DCM, the real one? Because what we have right now is not working...
10. When you go through such a loss, it really tests you as a breeder. I love big beautiful Dobermans. But are they worth breeding if their health is so fragile?
09 December 2017
- New resident of Las Vegas.
26 November 2017
- Here is our new German import puppy. PUPPY. Which means he is still growing and developing. Here are his photos from yesterday's show where the judge took off points because... wait for it... Puppy is too big! Growing puppy... normal height... too big!
Boooo to the judges, dog or human, who think they are gods.
07 August 2017
- The longer I breed - the more information becomes available - the harder the choices - the more confusing it gets.
Why can't we, the breeders, fix the DCM problem in Dobermans?
Because it's a complex problem. And we don't have all the facts and factors.
1. The amount of dogs affected is scary high - over 50%. Which leaves little gene pool to work with. Problem 1.
2. Problem 2 is that Problem 1 leaves us some dogs to work with but we DO NOT know which are those dogs.
3. Problem 3 is that we have no solid tests to identify which dogs are affected and which are not.
4. If you look at the above picture you will see how DCM is inherited. Problem is, even with the current two DNA tests, we cannot identify which dog has one mutation, or two, or none. That's where the problem lies.
"The complexity of dilated cardiomyopathy (DCM) is reflected in the uncertainty of the results of genetic testing. Dogs that test negative might later develop the disease. Likewise, those that test positive might never develop signs or only experience a mild form of the disease. The erratic clinical manifestation of the disease is rooted in its mode of inheritance: autosomal dominant with variable penetrance."
5. There are more mutations than two identified.
6. The two identified were mostly based on the American bloodlines. We've tested our dogs for this new DCM 2 and not one tested positive. Taking into consideration the high percentage of the DCM rate, this really makes the test quite questionable.
7. By studying databases, Nature, or genetics always surprise you which makes breeding choices even harder. A long living dog out of short lived dogs, is it worth breeding? And vice versa. A short lived dog out of long lived dogs, is it safe?
There are more questions than any breeder can answer.
If a scientist cannot figure out this puzzle, no breeder can.
25 July 2017
- Our bloodlines.
Time for some analysis.
Our breeding program is based on several different bloodlines. Most important females were:
- CH. Zara di Altobello (for show, size and type),
- CH. Sant Kreal Shaherezada (for show and longevity),
- Hismerh Katana Ko, IPO-3 (for work).
Early on we realized that it's highly risky to limit the breeding program to just one line. Because once you get some problems in your lines, often times it's easier to "kill" the line (=not pursue, i.e. spay and adopt out) than to try and fix it. And then you are back to square 1, and have to start all over. Which can be devastating to the breeder because it's time and emotion consuming. And we don't get younger.
So, most of our dogs are descendants of these 3 females. We have a few others but they are young and not established.
Unfortunately, the Doberman breed is affected by several health problems. Most serious ones are:
1. lack of genetic diversity,
2. cardio (DCM).
These two problems are different but somewhat interrelated.
I regularly check what's being bred out there and everything is the same with very few exceptions. We rarely look for a new dog but always keep this option open in case there is something new out there.
A new dog has to satisfy a few requirements, such as more or less healthy pedigree, new lines, etc.
To this day, I cannot put HEALTH, CONORMATION and WORKABILITY in the same equation. But carrying out several bloodlines helps in achieving certain (different) results which can be all joined in one down the road.
Most buyer want big, heavy, cute looking dogs. Such dogs DO NOT live long in general, because such dogs are either bred specifically for showing (workability and health stop being a priority) or by greeders. In this case, buyers should understand that they are part of the problem.
The amount of information is overwhelming, because more and more databases are created. So, the best solution is to establish your own bloodline where you know everything about the dogs you use.
Both cardio and genetic diversity (The reason Dobermans regularly die so young is because the gene pool is extremely depleted.) are extremely difficult problems to solve by just one breeder, this has to be a joint effort but that's not the case because every breeder thinks they are the real breed guru. They have their own way.
Another problem is that breeding results are retrospective. Which means you get results years later and you can analyze and adjust your breeding program only after at least half a decade has passed.
For example, at this time we are getting feedback regarding our breeding 7-10 years ago, who is alive and who is not. This makes breeding extremely tricky. And you cannot fix breed issues until you bred and got those issues. And you cannot fix your past breedings, they already happened, and they are what they are, but based on your past successes or failures, you can improve your future breedings, and then wait another 6+ year to see if your choices were the right ones.
So, to better our future, and because, due to our geographical location, we regularly experience "genetic hunger", we will introduce several new dogs. To see how they do health-wise.
Kalabria. Not the best dog conformation-wise. But her dad tested cardio-normal at 10yo, and her mom - at 8. Both alive. Mom's dad is alive as well. Dad's mom lived to be almost 13, had a normal cardio test right before she died, and we didn't have that lineage.
Pasodoble. This is an interesting "case" for us. He is not a show dog. He looks like an average Doberman. He is not the mainstream type. Most won't consider him worthy, because he is quite an ordinary dog. But the reason we got him was his pedigree. No, it's not DCM-free, but there is a huge number of old dogs there, his parents had normal cardio checks, 3 out of 4 grandparents still alive (4th died at 10). But what's more important is his old Soviet Doberman breeding. Everything you read about Doberman history, how they were, behavior, size, type, police work, normal life expectancy - all that was in those lines.
I think that our Pasodoble is like the last mammoth, almost extinct. Getting those old dogs was great luck. But he is not the dog you'd breed to any other dog. So, we've got some little pups out of him right now - we will observe how they grown. The plan is to wait with breeding him until he is a lil older and test him and go off his parents' life expectancy.
Darwin. Our new addition. He's got the looks we need. Keep in mind, quality breeding is not just about health, our just about shows or bitework. It's everything. So, Darwin has lovely parents. His dad is from a kennel - we don't have similar bloodlines, So, something new for us. His mom's dad is 10 right now. His pedigree has one of the dogs I've always wanted to have in my pedigrees, the long lived CH. Wanja Wandor.
So, as you see, there is a LOT of work involved in establishing a good breeding program. But at least we've got something to improve genetic diversity here. And with the finish of our kennel construction, we'll be able to travel more which will give us more opportunities, something we've always wanted and needed.
22 July 2017
- Some breeder feedback regarding current DCM tests:
"No value in Pdk4 other than possible research and that imo is questionable. I don't have faith in the muers genes. She was quick to make them commercial. The research was not peer reviewed and no one was able to replicate her results so far . Dogs homo both genes living long. Dogs neg both genes dying young of dcm. No value other than possible research."
"I have one I bred that's neg both and been diagnosed. There really isn't any value in those genes other than bad breeders insist on neg genes the advert litter dcm free.
More harm than good".
17 July 2017
- OLet's talk about the nasty: various dog discharges.
I realized a couple weeks ago that not all vets are equally knowledgeable and experienced as you'd expect them to be.
1. Smegma. Male dogs only.
"Smegma is the yellow or greenish pus that sometimes oozes out of a dog's penis. Fortunately for your dog, and your embarrassment levels, this discharge is natural and is usually no cause for concern".
This is not an infection and does not need to be treated. Usually happens in intact males.
Advice: don't worry.
2. Vaginitis. Females only.
Young female dogs less than one year of age may develop 'juvenile vaginitis'. The cause of this condition is unknown, but generally resolves with age.
Adult vaginitis is a different story.
It is a fairly common disorder in dogs of all ages. Most cases seen in dogs are caused by the caustic and irritating effects of urine on the vaginal mucosa or lining. Infections from bacteria, yeasts, and viruses are known to occur within the vagina.
Non-infectious inflammations of the vagina also occur due to the effects of shampoos, detergents, cleaning agents, and other solutions.
Advice: in a young dog, don't worry unless it's significant, then go see a vet.
3. Pyometra is a serious infection that occurs in the uterus. Adult intact females.
Pyometra is an important disease to be aware of for any dog owner because of the sudden nature of the disease and the deadly consequences if left untreated
Symptoms: fever, abdominal swelling, lethargy, discharge, rear leg weakness.
Advice: see a vet immediately. Spay.
4. Papilloma virus.
Uncommon in the US, common is Europe. As any virus, it dies out once it has run its course. Papilloma grows and then falls off on its own.
Advice: don't worry.
5. Cherry eye.
Eye gland comes out. Uncommon in Dobermans.
Advice: see a vet.
6. Nasal discharge.
With any nasal discharge, unless it's clear like water. See a vet. Your dog will definitely need antibiotics.
7. Eye discharge.
Don't confuse with sleep boogers. Eye discharge is white/yellow/greenish.
Advice: see a doctor.
If it's minor, there are ways you can deal with it. Wash. See if it's dust/dirt/allergy related. And see a vet.
Eye trauma will also lead to eye discharge.
8. Ear infections.
Most common are ear mites and yeast.
Advice: see a vet. And keep in mind, this is the case that's easier to prevent than to treat. Check your dog's ears!
Yes, dogs get them too.
Most dog owner agree acne happens due to hormones: growing dogs, nursing females.
10. Skin issues.
Advice: see a vet.
30 June 2017
- Why does DCM have to be so tricky?!
Here is a pedigree: http://doberbase.ru/index.php?a... With half a dozen DCM deaths and a lot of inbreeding in just 3 generations, this dog is 12 and very well alive! Tricky Nature!
24 June 2017
- What the hell is wrong with people?!
My morning started with stumbling on yet another "warlock" site selling my pups from 4-5 years ago, followed by someone texting me about it, saying the person (=crook) wants buyers to wire the money for a puppy!
The site is only a week old. But all the sweet honey written all over it makes them look so good. Problem is no quality puppy costs $800 in the US.
22 June 2017
- And again I come across a website offering my pups (5 or 6 listed) from our past breedings as their own. What's wrong with people? Www.warlockdoberman.com
30 May 2017
- Problems of European Doberman breeding in the US. As I see it.
Americans import a lot of dogs from Europe. And one might think that this should benefit breeding on this continent, but unfortunately this is not the case.
1) Most dogs end up in pet families, or families that might breed or stud out on a small scale.
2) There is no centralized database where you can look up a dog.
3) The European show world is underdeveloped on this continent, which means owners don't go, don't show, breeders don't see and have no information of what dogs/bloodlines are available in the States.
4) Because of 3), owners rarely health screen their dogs, and breeders cannot use untested dogs in breeding. Unless it's a "my nieghbor/friend has a dog and I have a dog, so let's breed them" situation.
5) Because the European dogs are limited, lack of diversity affects quality of Doberman population in the States. It's easier to breed a cute face, than an overall top quality dog.
6) Breeders who try to establish a bloodline are the ones suffering the most from lack of diversity and their geographical location because it's very problematic to have to go to Europe for every breeding.
7) Quality will always decrease without the import of new lines that need to work well with the breeder's stock which is hard to gage when you import a tiny puppy that might develop into a good dog or might not, it's a test of time.
8) Good stud owners aren't always easy to approach here than in Europe.
9) The US - very widely spread out doberman imports, that aren't always easy to find.
25 May 2017
- How well is your Doberman exercised...
The more exercise your muscles get, the more obvious they become. If you've ever had to wear a cast on a leg, you'd know how fast the muscle mass recedes and how long it takes to build it up again.
Now, I've got an eye for that. And you can't lie about it because I will know if your dog gets enough exercise - can't hide the muscles!
If your dog develops bad habits, and you are not willing to work on that, and return the dog to the breeder, and the breeder sees flat muscles, well, whose fault is that the dog is bored, under exercised and is just trying to entertain itself?
So, here we go:
Bullky, well defined in the first photo, and flat, smooth, round in the second. Which dog runs more?
Conclusion: If you get a Doberman, make sure EVERY day they are able to do this:
15 May 2017
- Beautiful photography.
11 May 2017
- More on corrective surgeries.
I know one of our past buyers used the button method to get the ears to stand.
And here is how the vertical stitches inside the lenth of the ear look like - especially goid for the ears that fold over.
10 May 2017
- Some more feedback about size and weight. What Dobe owners have to say:
"First let me start off by saying that I love Lexie no matter how big she is. I am curious though about how big the standard is for a 10 month old female European Dobermann as I've seen many posts and pictures of other Dobermanns at her age and they are way bigger than her. She is currently 10-month-old and about 26 1/2 inches and only weighs 54 pounds. Her mom weighed 67-70 pounds and her dad weighed 85 pounds."
1) My Lexi is 1 1/2 and weighs 82lbs. Dr says no more than 80 lbs.
2) BabyJane was petite but with perfect lines. A beautiful little lady. Regardless of her size just be thankful you are a Doberman parent.
3) Our girl stopped growing in height at that age, she was and is as big as Lexie. She was also very slim/athletic and about the same weight. By now (she now is 17 mo) she weighs 69 pounds. So imho Lexie is right on schedule.
4) She is gorgeous....All though there are some size standards for Dobbies I personally feel that as long as they eat well, pooch well, ' guard well, play well....they are a Happy and healthy member of the family..small is always better less health problems & longer life. So enjoy the special moments they offer...
5) Hijack at 11 mouths 80lbs
6) Our girl was small at 1 1/2 and all of a sudden grew.She is now 3 and 77 lbs.
7) The 26 inch height is good. It is more important to have a square build; height equal length. I think she is fine at that weight. Females in the 65 to 75 range is about right confirmation wise. That is much better than too heavy. Anyone promoting a Doberman over 90 pounds or so even for a male doesn't know what they are talking about.
8) The word Superior means better. Bigger dobes are not better. Is a gimmick for back yard breeders to sell to unsuspecting people.
9) She looks great to me and she is still very young don't get hung up on weight lean muscle is ideal and she is still maturing.
10) I don't get the size obsession either it's saddens me how everyone seems to want obese larger than standard Doberman especially when they haven't even reached full maturity
11) Perfect... my female Zeva is about 80 pounds
12) My 3 year old euro bitch is 24.5" and around 60 lbs. Intact and raw fed.
13) A little over two 75 lbs
I don't understand the weight obsession either. Just recently a person was looking for a puppy to resemble their departed 160lb Doberman. Now that's beyond insane.
The weight and size depend on many factors.
1. Breeding. Smaller dogs vs larger dogs. But larger dogs can still produce smaller dogs.
2. Lack of proper nutrition, illness the first months of a dog's life can affect the size.
3. Show breeders produce more standard and predictable sizes than breeders who just produce without proper selection principles.
4. Purpose. Example: If I have a smaller dog, I will breed it to a larger dog, of course. Because I would want an average size. Average size is big enough. There is no need to want more than that. A 90-lb male is a lot of a male. Why want more?
If I just want to get puppies, I will breed whatever I have to whatever else I have, and I will get whatever I get. There is no breeding planning, no selection, and no substantial reason for this breeding to take place. But it takes place. And usually oversized or weird sized dogs come from such breedings.
And It is up to you what to support.
30 April 2017
- About the ears...
Not all ears stand up after cropping and posting. And there are many reasons to that:
1. High set or low set
2. Strength and thickness of the cartilage
3. Broken cartilage
4. Cropped length
6. Ear thickness
7. Calcium deficiency
8. Human factor
9. Poorly cropped.
What to do:
1. Contact the vet who cropped.
2. Leave it be.
3. Call local great dane/boxer breeders (they all crop their dogs) and inquire about where they get the ears done, ask other vets.
Here are the ears after one plastic surgery:
And after second surgery:
Fix-up plastic surgery:
1. Vertical cuts on the inside, stitched
2. Cuts at the base of the ear, at the base of the head, to adjust cartilage or remove extra skin and pull the ears up
3. Implants, mesh or wire
4. Silicone injections
5. Length shortening
The younger the dog the faster everything heals. If with a regular ear crop, you are looking at 2-3 weeks of healing, plastic surgery (especially at the base) will take longer. Some vets will only do plastic surgery on very young dogs.
At the same time, don't expect perfect ears until the change of all baby teeth (7-ish months).
Often times, the ears can be easily fixed by taking off some length. Show breeders love leaving the whole length - have some head with your ears...
We've had such experience when one of our imports arrived with nice but super long ears that wouldn't stand. Another vet took a few inches off and they stood up very
fast and didn't need any more posting or fixing. That's why I prefer medium cuts.
For example, these ears can be fixed either by vertical incisions on the inside or by removing the length:
Not all vets are competent enough to crop Doberman ears. These are not bully ears.
Here is a re-crop example:
When ear start healing, scabs start drying up shrinking the skin. So, it's important to tape the ears during this process. even just for 10 hours, untaping for the night.
Important to know that the ear posting and the results are the responsibility of the owner. The breeder has no power to predict how well and soon they get
to stand, the breeder usually is not the one who crops the ears. When cropping ears, like with any cosmetic surgery, you have to realize that there are no guarantees.
20 April 2017
- Veterinarian incompetence we've had to deal with!
"Everything is going good. Took Baron to vet everything checked out but his legs. Vet said his legs were unusually big for 8 weeks compared to the rest of his body."
A puppy bumped his head and got a swelling on top of the head. Owners take him to the vet, the vet tells them the puppy has a whole in the brain and liquid is leaking, the puppy has hydrocephalus. To my question how she determined that, she responded they palpated it. No xrays were taken.
Needless to say, that was rubbish, the bump went away in 2 weeks.
A healthy puppy was placed in a family. A little later we got the following email:
"I hope all is well.
Second visit went ok. He's 22lbs. The vet x-rayed his front legs; primarily concerned with his left front leg. It appears to be abnormal and not growing the same as the right (knuckle is larger and bone slightly shorter than the right) . She stated she thinks it may be from a previous injury (fracture) or congenital. She's talking about possible amputation, etc ... Craziness! Personally, I don't think she knows exactly what she is talking about, and I will be finding another vet. On a positive note, it doesn't seem to impede his movements or bother him.
To me, he appears to be slightly bow legged. Research reveals that it may be caused from too much protein, and by switching from puppy food to adult food (higher calcium), it usually corrects it within a few months.
The leg issue has been discussed in our Blog twice. This is something that goes away within days/weeks. Amputation! Talk about costly vet school programs creating such doctors!
We took our pup to the vet yesterday. ()
We had quite a day at the vet - we went to two different vets yesterday, both ended up being STAUNCHLY against ear cropping and were not afraid to let us know what they thought of us or how cruel and painful what we had done was, even with our children in the room!! I could not believe how we were treated and what was said to us. We are in the process of finding a vet around here with a different mind frame, but so far we are having a difficult time. ()
We really feel as if we couldn't believe anything of the first two vets. They both said that his infection was horrible, but we were wondering if they were more disturbed by the cropping - having not seen it before. We are not really sure what to do at this point.
We are thinking of waiting until Thursday to go to the third vet. ()
I appreciate your help! We are just looking for some advice with someone with experience on this because neither vet was willing to help us at all.
You have an ok doctor and an experienced nurse, who will you rather listen to? The Doctor. That's why you 1) should find a breeder who has very broad experience of the dogs and the breed, 2) should consult with the breeder if the vet diagnosis sounds too unreal/ridiculous/insane, 3) shouldn't blindly trust the vets.
14 April 2017
- Our old gal Dimetra, here at almost 8.
2 April 2017
- Ear crop. What to expect:
1st week after surgery, the ear might look like this. A lil rough. The edges look so thick when an older pup is cropped. Best age is 7-9 weeks, from the point of healing fast.
This is a slighty infected ear crop. Use Neosporin or antibiotics. Overall, dealing with the crop is quite a pain, especially the first two weeks.
Ncely healing ear:
One the best methods to care for the ears while they heal. Don't know how to do this, need to learn.
My vet's technique:
So poorly stitched, doesn't look professional:
Interesting. Looks interesting and effective:
Ear looking perfect. Ideal.
30 March 2017
- Recent Facebook post:
"On the day of yesterday, I passed away the bitch Alexandra the great happy fly, I get to the farm and found the bitch lying on the grass, and even hot, got into the car and urgent for the vet, they couldn't do anything, And I told them to look that could have been killed, since he had no bite, no nothing,
Today I was told that I was from the heart as he has a side bigger than the other, (dilated cardiomyopathy), that's a bummer, my head is spinning and I wonder, if the parents passed all tests of the heart, as I pass that to me Bitch,
When a dog dies of DCM at 1.5yo - this is very-very sad and a reason for the breeder to rethink the breeding preferences.
Could this have been prevented? Let's look at the pedigree:
We have close inbreeding on Infinity Fly, then 3 times Paola Penelopa. No real long lived dogs, not much genetic diversity to thin out bad genes. And apparently the dad's sister died young of DCM.
So, while we can't tell for sure how long the dogs are going to live, there are things we can choose to avoid, like pedigrees with no long lived dogs. Laws of nature are not ours to play with, and yes, there have been long-lived dogs out of not long-lived dogs, but just by looking at this pedigree there is nothing for the longevity to come out of.
Here is an interesting question for all:
"Those of you that have lost a Dobie to DCM or even multiple dobies would you always have a doberman even though you know the risk of losing them at such young ages? I have 3 doberman and I can't imagine owning another breed but if they were to pass at a young age I don't know If I could take that chance again."
- Had 3 dobies. 2 died of DCM. 21 month old. 10 years old. Number 3 is now just turned 7 years old, still alive but on DCM meds.
Never ever again will I own a Dobermann!!! I love the breed, but I can't do this anymore. It's to hard and not worth it.
From now on I will own only street dogs!!!
- Not until the breed gets healthier... love them, totally broke my heart...not taking the risk until testing and breeding gets better.
- I haven't lost mine to DCM, he'll be 9 this year. But I've had too many friends lose theirs. Purpose bred crossbreeds for me from now on, or purebreds utilizing diversity testing in pairings.
- you better make sure they are health testing those crossbreed parents because 'mutts' are no longer healthier than purebreds - they never really were - hybrid vigor was a wrong analysis.
- I have my 11th adopted/rescued Doberman. Out of the 11 only 2 had DCM. I'll be getting the my newest adoptee (11/5/2016) tested soon. I lost my last one to DCM on 11/1/2016. I just cannot be without a Doberman. So many looking for forever homes.
- Yes I have and yes, with no hesitation, I will have a Dobie again. There is nothing compared to how they love you. They put their whole heart, soul and everything into loving their family.
- I will always have a dobie. I have owned them for 22 years. I have had 6 all together. I have lost 2 of them to Dcm. I lost one 18 years ago and second one in September of 2016. I also own great Danes they are also heartbreaking to own some times but I will also always have a Dane.
- Jade is my First Doberlilly.. Regardless of there health issues I would always have one.. The only thing that would stop me would be old age only Beaucse Dobies need a lot of exercise..
- I've had 8 over the last 23 years. Lost 3 to sudden death DCM. Still can't see myself without them.
- Yes - I would love to have a Dobermann again although our family lost our beloved Nova - aged 8 years to DCM. It was the worst thing I?d gone through in my whole life when she passed away, but I have never experienced such a personality
- The love and devotion of a Doberman is unmatched to any, since I was 14, now 60+ nothing but Doberman. Lost 1 last November, at 7yo, still have my adopted Albion female 11 years old, and new puppy European doberman at 10 weeks old.
- I lost the love of my life, Phoenix, this past April at 3 1/2 yrs, within 6 weeks of diagnosis. Totally heartbroken, and his best buddy Willow, my 5 year old dobie, has never been the same since.
The pain was and still is so great, sometimes I feel I just can't breath. So, that's when I started looking for a male dobie, and we now have Baci! It was the best thing I did. He will never replace Phoenix, but having him just makes everything complete again. Willow, is coming around slowly, but I do see her spirit alive again. So, YES, I would run and buy another dobie, there is no breed like them. The love they give, is worth the heartache.
- I have had 10 Dobermans in the past 40 years. I lost my first and 6th to DCM and now my 51/2 year old Ch. has been diagnosed with it. I will never be without a Doberman.
- Yes, nothing but a Doberman. But something really needs to be done on our doberman breed and the DCM. It's so heartbreaking enough to lose them, let alone having to worry. They are the best breed in the world.
- I have lost 3 to DCM /CHF our first male was 6 & 1/2 yrs old and our other two were older and lived wonderful lives .I could never be without a Dobermann they have my heart
- My sweet boy died suddenly of DCM. I tried to get another Dobie, but I just couldn't. Every time I thought about it, I just fell apart. I now have a Rottweiler puppy.
- No other dog could replace my Heidi. Dobies are special. But I cannot have another. I adopted a rescue mutt.
- I will NEVER own another breed of dog, having owned a Dobermann
- On my 4th dobie 2 died young one was 2 the other was 5 but my first Dob was 10 best breed ever will always have a Dob in my life
- I'll tell you what, despite the risk, I will jump on the chance to give the best life possible to ANY Doberman! Whether it's only a couple of years or a decade +. The love they give is truly special.
- Lost my first Dobermann at 2 years 10 months old to DCM. I got her the day she turned 2 so I only had her for 10 months and I'm still really devastated about it but my little girl is helping get through it. So yes I will always want Dobermanns
- We lost our last two boys DCM and said never again
- lost DCM and cancer and stomack torsion.... But not imagine other breed...
- Yes I've lost a Doberman to DCM. Will always have a Doberman in my house.
- I have had 5 Dobermanns who all died of different reasons, one of DCM at 7,5 years old. Wasn't worse to loose one in DCM than the others. Always a heart break . Now I have 4 Dobis from 1 year to 7,5 years old , all healthy and DCM scanned so far . I 'am a breeder and do my very best to breed to provoke DCM but as it is so spread in the breed I will not always succeed. But I will try and hopefully we'll get a better chance to win over DCM if we work and breed in the long term of DCM scanned dogs.
- I will not support a breed with fewer as 50:50 chance that the dog will get old
If a dobermann than from animal shelter!
I look everyday at puppy anouncements and i can cry because of nearly every of one!
- Yep until I'm too old to handle them we will have a dobie period.
- Yes, lost my last boy to dcm at 4 yrs & 8 mths in 2007 and the boy I have now is 9 yrs, the way I look at it I'm giving them a good home for maybe the short time they are with us and just couldn't see myself with another breed plus there isn't another breed like them
- I lost my first dobermann when she was 2 yo to DCM. I got my second dobermann from a completely different bloodline, with both parents over 9 yo and grandparents that lived at least up to 10/11. He turned out to have wobbler and subaortic stenosis (heart problem) at 1 yo. His brother died of DCM soon after his second birthday. I love dobermanns I thought I found my forever breed and I intended to always have them. But the pain is just too much. Getting up every day hoping they did not die in their sleep or hoping they won't drop dead during a walk is just too much. I won't be getting another dobermann. As long as there are people who think it's okay to have a dog that will very very likely die of DCM just because you love the breed too much, the current problem will not change because breeders will just keep doing what they are doing now, causing pain to dogs and families.
- Lost my dobe with dcm at 3 .5 years old to young lost my other dobe 6 with liver another biggest killer with dobes no I won't b having another one again even vet said they r high risk x I still have one dobe I keep my fingers crossed with him can't keep going through this heartache
- I lost my girl at age 3.5 and it completely broke me and still does, losing her ripped my heart and soul out, I have a Rhodesian ridgeback of 5 months and my little Heinz 57 rescue from Spain now, while it hurts like hell to not have a dobe in my life I can't go through the fear of having one and them having DCM so no I will probably never have another unless things change drastically
- Yes, just lost my boy to DCM on 20 January, had to have him pts because of the distress he was in. New dobie pup arriving 25/3/17. Can't be without one. My boy was 11.5 yrs
- I've had Dobermanns for over 20 years and now is my last one, a big rescue boy of 9yrs. It will be very strange to be without a Dobermann after him. I've Always had 4 to 5 dogs and I have standard poodles now. I Always loved this breed very much and after the death of several Dobermanns due to DCM I switched. And I love them so much!! My Dobes died at the age of 2 years, at 4 years, and already several sisters and brothers of my last girl that died also of DCM have deceased too. I can't have one again. It broke my heart to see them die so young and due to such an terrible genetic disease. I hope in the future I'll ever have a brown boy again in my life, like my beloved Dracul. He lived till the age of 13.5 years and was as healthy as could be. But I can't go through this again so no Dobermanns in my life no more...
- I have lost 6 of my precious Dobermanns to this evil disease. I have had my heart broken time after time but losing my beautiful soulmate Raven who I lost just over 2 years ago has destroyed me , I am still suicidal over her loss . My heart is broken beyond any hope of repair and my soul is shattered , I'll never ever get over losing her , I am lost and broken and if I'm honest just want to go wherever she is to be with her . She had brain damage from birth and was special beyond words and so vulnerable , she shouldn't be without her Muma , it's not right , we should never have been separated. I hate this disease , I hate those 3 letters , I live in absolute terror of them every day. However even though I have been heartbroken and crucified by the loss of my precious kids because of this disease I cannot have any other breed . I have tried to have a golden retriever and a Rottweiler and I had to return both to the breeders as it felt so wrong . If you've had a Doberman you'll know there's no other breed than can compare or even come close , therefore I have to live with the utter heartache and pain of my loss and pray that this disease doesn't take my beloved kids from me. It's all I can do - hope and pray . The way I have to see it is i'd rather have 5 years with the love of a Dobermann than 10 years with another breed . " The light that burns twice as bright burns half as long " Something needs to be done about this disease, what is being done , what is needed to help find a cure ? Money I suppose? Maybe every Dobermann owner can donate so that more research can be done . I pray everyday for a cure . So many beautiful Dobermanns losing their lives and each one leaving an owner behind broken-hearted
- I have 3.girls and they lives 10.5;11;11.5.. 4. girl suddenly gone in one hour, in age of 7.year!!I was broken,but after two days I bought another girl pupy..I think I can't live without doby girl
- I've had Dobermans since 2004. I don't think I could live without at least one. I've have several other breeds & Dobes are extra special & unique.
- Hubby and I are on our 4th Dobe since 1978. First Dobe had sudden death at 4.5 years old; second was 14 (cancer); third was 11.5 (cancer); and Baron is now almost 10.5 and was diagnosed with DCM at 4.5. Has been on meds since that time and is doing well. Honestly, would not have any other breed and will absolutely get another one.
- Yes, I will. I am trying to hedge my bets for the next one in a few years' time by going to a breeder that does all the tests I want and breeds for health
- I will always have a Dobe the pleasure they give me throughout their lives always surpasses the grief when they go - at the time of losing them it is a physical pain - such heartache but in time the memories they leave will always bring a smile - I lost a male just over two in the early nineties- I had a post-mortem done and it turned out he had Addisons Disease and although I had attended the vet regularly as I felt he was not right his symptoms where so vague it was missed - had I lost him now I know the torches and pitchforks would be out - fingers pointing and rumours of DCM - unfortunately there are no guarantees with living breathing creatures including humans - most good breeders are trying their utmost to minimise this condition - but going back to the original question - always - my belongs to my chosen breed and always will
- I will always have a Doberman no matter what
- I love the Dobermann breed and can not see myself with another breed. The love they give is unmatched which makes it even harder when they pass. I have lost them to sudden death, injury, cancer, old age, everywhere from a year old to fourteen years old. I lost one 7 mos. ago and still cry every single day from missing him...but I would do it again, and will do it again and again...
- No I won't have another Dobermann as long as the breed is in the state that it is. I have lost 3 to DCM and my heart is well and truly broken. It's nearly 4 years since I lost my last Dobe and it's as painful as if it were yesterday.
- It is painful to lose them. But will always have at least 2 Dobes
- You cannot deny yourself ownership of the best dogs in world because of this disease. Whether you have them for years or just a day. Know that they gave you joy however long they're here for and thank god that there are always another to give you more happiness because at one point not so long ago it was touch and go whether this breed would survive. I have a year old one and if he goes I'd be devasted but it wouldn't stop me getting another. It wouldn't be a replacement just another friend
- I try to tell myself that it means I will get to own more. I will always own dobermans have owned them for over half my life now and until today have never had one live past age 9. (Its my current boys 9th birthday today)
- I'm 48 and have had a doberman in my life since the age of 10 period I currently have 3. I cannot imagine my life without a doberman however I did lose one at the age of one years old and she was diagnosed at six months old. I know that it can be hard to avoid DCM but I cannot stress enough on doing your research when looking for a breeder period Health testing and proof of longevity in the lines is a non-negotiable. Please do not support backyard breeders or unethical breeding Kennels. I believe part of the reason this disease has gotten so out of control is from these greedy establishments mass-producing these dogs. I also have two adopted girls. I never had adopted before but after the death of my little baby I decided to adopt.
26 March 2017 Question: "I have one question. This is not my first puppy, and I know I got a Velcro dog. But Bentley cries a lot in his crate if you leave him.
As soon as he came home, my two main priorities over the weekend were crate training and housetraining (of course). Housetraining has gone very smoothly, I'm honestly surprised, and he loves his crate and will go in willingly to play or sleep, so that worked too. But if he isn't sleeping ...or about to fall asleep, he screams in the crate. Especially at night.:( I have tried to close the door, open, and treat. Close the door, step away, and treat. And overnight I tried to just ignore it. It didn't stop so I covered the crate with a blanket, moved it closer to the bed, put my hand in. Nothing. And he was SCREAMING.
I also can't step 5ft away from him without him crying, even if my mom is still present. Although, I went upstairs and left him for ~30 seconds today and he whined a bit but did pretty good. I'm worried because my mom is the one who is going to be letting him out and watching him while I'm at work starting tomorrow and he is a crier. I'm also worried about separation anxiety. Is this normal for 8 weeks, does it just go away with time? Is it too soon to say it's a larger issues, and any similar experiences with your puppies?"
Answers: - I brought my baby home at eight weeks… She's currently 19 weeks old. She screamed bloody murder in her crate until she was about 15 weeks old. I had to warn my neighbors in case they heard the screams that I was crate training a puppy - not murdering her. Stick it out, it will get better… I have crate trained every dog I've owed but my Doberman has been the hardest.
- I took a lil blanket and rub it on me so my scent would be on it for mine to sleep with.
- I have always used a manual clock for the ticking noise of another heartbeat and a hot water bottle. NOT a heating pad. He has just left his mom and siblings. This is his first experience alone in his world.
- It can depend on the dog too. I have 2 dobermans from the same parents and one is fine in the crate while the other screams and cries the entire time she's in there. She also has separation anxiety.
- We made the unfortunate mistake of giving in to Reno crying in his crate by letting him out into our bed!! End of story.
- You have to leave him ALONE! it can take up to 3 hours for them to stop crying... and once they stop if they start in the middle of the night usually means they need to go potty... you have to leave them alone. its hard I know both to hear them and then sleep also but you have to ignore it!
- I also leave a radio on.
- I bought two crates and nite time was the bedroom crate. I also would on occasion throw a shoe at the crate and say shut up.
- We have had many dogs over the years!!!! The dobie was the worst at crate training......He cryed......we caved.....into our bed he came....he is a year and a half now.......we crate him when we aren't here.
- be persistent, they are smart dogs and know exactly what they are doing by crying for you, just make sure he doesn't need to pee/poo, max time at that age is 2-3 hours in the crate without some play and personal time.
- Try putting an old fashioned wind up alarm clock in the crate. Sometimes the ticking will calm them enough so they'll sleep. Make sure
you wear him out before putting him into the crate for the night. You can also put some type of a large stuffed animal for him to cuddle with. Remember he's only 8
weeks old and he had his litter mates to snuggle with. Dogs are pack animals & need to be touching something soothing when they sleep. Your guy is just lonely.
13 March 2017
- All you need to know about Doberman DCM. Interestingly enough, a lot of things said in the article have been discussed by me in this Blog.
www.instituteofcaninebiology.org/blog/an-update... An update on the genetic status of the Doberman Pinscher
By Carol Beuchat PhD The Doberman Pinscher is in serious trouble. About 60% of the breed is afflicted with dilated cardiomyopathy (DCM), with 13% affected by the time they are
6 years old and more than 40% by the age of 8. The disorder has an autosomal dominant pattern of inheritance, but the causative genes are unknown.
DCM is fatal. The heart fails, sometimes in the absence of any symptoms of a problem, and the dog simply drops dead - in the middle of a game of fetch, during a run on an agility course, or while the family is away during the day at work and school. Most dogs die in their prime and even younger.
(In the first graph below, the data are divided into age cohorts and no animal appears in more than one age group.)
How long do they live?
Where did this horrible problem come from?
We have good data about the history of DCM in the breed. In 1990, the incidence was already quite high, with more than 25% of dogs affected. Since then,
DCM has increased essentially linearly by about 1.5% per year. At this rate, by 2040, 100% of the Doberman breed will be afflicted with DCM.
Clearly, the efforts made by breeders over the last three decades to decrease the incidence DCM have had no effect at all on the prevalence of the disorder. Not even a little.
I wrote last summer about the tragedy of watching this noble breed go extinct before our very eyes (see Are We Watching the Extinction of a Breed?).
What are we doing to deal with this problem? Breeders are routinely monitoring their dogs for the electrical abnormalities that are signs of DCM. They are trying to select from lines that appear to be less afflicted with the problem.
However, the question nobody seems to be asking is whether it is even possible to rid the breed of this problem through selective breeding. Can better monitoring and ever more selective breeding reduce the incidence of this horrible problem in Dobermans? Is there enough genetic diversity in the breed to "breed away" from DCM?
What is the genetic status of the Doberman? In my earlier post, I presented a summary of data for genetic diversity in various dog breeds, including the Doberman. There are now additional data that give us a broader picture of the genetic status of the Doberman.
First, this graph is the up-to-date summary of the genetic diversity in Dobermans that have been examined by MyDogDNA. The color scale at the bottom indicates the ranges of high and low diversity. The data include dogs from the US, Austria, Russia, the United Kingdom, Finland, Australia, and Ukraine. The median heterozygosity for this group is 26.6% (blue), which is less than the median for other pinscher and schnauzer-type breeds (34.2%; green) and for all dogs (34.6%; orange).
Below I have graphed the data for genetic diversity of all dog breeds analyzed by MyDogDNA on their website. In the top panel, the Doberman, with a median heterozygosity
of 26.6%, is indicated by the arrow. Below that is a graph that includes all of the breeds they have measured. (These graphs are taken from my earlier post.) For reference, the green line is the average heterozygosity for mixed breed dogs (43%), and the red line is the median heterozygosity for all dogs in the MyDogDNA database. Higher heterozygosity is better; if a dog was heterozygous at all loci the value would be 50% using this method.
We now have new data from a separate study (Dreger et al 2017) on a different cohort of dogs (see Inbreeding of Purebred Dogs Determined from DNA). They used a different method for estimating the proportion of the genome that is homozygous called "runs of homozygosity" (ROH). This method identifies blocks of consecutive homozygous loci, then adds the total length of these blocks and divides by the total length of chromosomes covered by markers to produce the inbreeding coefficient. Lower values of inbreeding are better.
The hand thing about this estimate of inbreeding is that the value indicates two things: 1) the probability that an animal will inherit two copies of the same allele from an ancestor (i.e., homozygous for that allele), and 2) the fraction of all loci that are homozygous.
From this study, the average inbreeding coefficient of the Doberman is 43% (red arrow on the enlarged graph on the left, blue on the graph for all breeds on the left). This means that
on average, nearly half the genome of a dog is homozogyous, with two copies of the same allele;
the risk of any particular locus being homozygous for the same allele - whether good or bad - is 43%;
on average, 43% of the genomes of any two dogs are the same.
In addition to the data on inbreeding and heterozygosity of the whole genome in Dobermans, we now also have information specifically about the genes of the immune system.
The immune system protects an animal from all manner of outside invaders, from bacteria and viruses to fungi and parasites. It must be able to recognize a bewildering diversity of pathogens as foreign, then marshall the specific cellular defense mechanisms necessary to destroy them. At the same time, it must be able to distinguish "self" from "non-self"; failure to do this is the cause of autoimmune disorders, in which the immune system attacks one of the body's own tissues.
The genes for the immune system in the dog are called the "dog leukocyte antigens" (DLA). They tend to be inherited as blocks of genes called haplotypes. There are two types of DLA haplotypes called DLA Class I and DLA Class II. Like single alleles, an animal can inherit two copies of the same haplotype or they can be different (i.e., homozygous or heterozygous).
In most animals, the genes of the immune system are the most diverse in the entire genome, and in wild animals there is strong selection to keep them that way. In purebred dogs, however, inbreeding, strong selection, bottlenecks, and genetic drift have reduced the genetic diversity across the genome, including the Class I and Class II DLA.
Take for example these data for DLA diversity from UC Davis in nine breeds of dogs (see Inbreeding and the Immune System: Unintended Consequences). The graph shows the number of haplotypes found in a survey of each breed, separated into Class I and Class II DLA.
You can see that the breed with the highest number of haplotypes, the Standard Poodle, has about 45 Class I haplotypes and 28 of Class II. The Poodle suffers from many autoimmune disorders, including Addison's disease, sebaceous adenitis, immune mediated hemolytic anemia, immune mediated thrombocytopenia, chronic hepatitis, temporalmandibular myositis, Evan's syndrome, immune pancytopenia, and chronic thyroiditis (Pedersen et al 2015). Even as it has the highest DLA diversity of the particular breeds in this study, it suffers from a compromised immune system as a consequence of strong selective breeding and genetic bottlenecks (Pedersen et al 2015).
Unfortunately, among the other breeds that were tested, the Doberman fared the worst, with less than 10 DLA haplotypes for either Class I and Class II. Even if DCM could be eliminated from the breed, the Doberman would still suffer from issues realated to the poor health of the immune system.
This is the assessment of Dr Niels Pedersen, who is conducting a study of genetic diversity in Dobermans at UC Davis.
1) "This study of 71 Doberman establishes a desperate need for breeders to search the world for pockets of genetic diversity that does not exist in the present population, just as was done by Standard Poodle and Italian Greyhound breeders. Eastern Europe and more isolated areas of Western Europe would be ideal places to search for such diversity. Genetic introgressions with similar dogs may be required, but such outcrossing must be based on sound genetic knowledge and careful monitoring of new diversity to see that it is not lost by backcrossing or contained to only a fraction of the breed."
2) "In the case of diseases such as DCM, the genetic traits responsible for the disease may already be fixed in certain varieties of the breed, reminiscent of hyperuricosuria in the Dalmatian. A lack of genetic diversity greatly limits the ability to find reasonably unrelated mates, but when this lack is combined with the need to select against a large number of heritable traits, the ability to identify genetically suitable mates becomes even more difficult."
The bottom line
The Doberman has the lowest diversity in the DLA genes of the immune system of any of the breeds studied to date by Pedersen's lab at UC Davis. This, together with the high level of inbreeding documented from multiple studes and the overall relatedness of the dogs in the population, leaves breeders with little ability to circumvent the multiple genetic diseases in the breed. Furthermore, some deleterious genes could be fixed in the breed - that is, the normal, non-mutated version of the gene is no longer present in the gene pool and therefore are not available for selection.
It is highly unlikely that the desperate genetic situation of the Doberman can be improved by selective breeding within the closed gene pool of the breed. It should be made very clear to breeders that they will not restore health to this breed by selecting against health problems. Furthermore, trying to select less related parents in an effort to improve diversity in the offspring is a bit like pushing your peas around on your plate; you might look like you're accomplishing something, but with little effect.
The only hope for this breed is the initiation of a sound, comprehensive cross-breeding program, under the guidance of population geneticists, that will introduce new genetic diversity into the breed. The longer it takes to begin genetic rescue, the more difficult it will be and the less likely it is to be successful.
A final word
We have a moral obligation to restore the noble Doberman breed back to health, and this effort needs to begin immediately.
Pedersen NC, L Brucker, NG Tessier, H Liu, M Cecilia, T Penedo, S Hughes, A Oberbauer, & B Sacks. The effect of genetic bottlenecks and inbreeding on the incidence of two major autoimmune diseases in Standard Poodles, sebaceous adenitis and Addison's disease. Canine Genetics and Epidemiology 2:13. DOI 10.1186/s40575-015-0026-5.
9 March 2017
- Thumbs up to this poster:
"One thing that I see frequently that both amazes and frustrates me is people's inability/unwillingness to admit when their dog is overweight. Imagine how you would feel and the potential health risks of carrying 10, 20, even 30% extra weight, and yet I see it on here every day. I see people who mention their dogs weight when describing them(i.e...I have a 96lb male), or are so proud of how big their dog is they list weight with decimals(i.e..my dog is 104.2 lbs). Why be so proud of how much they weigh?! Why get so defensive when people try to tell you that your dog is overweight? Why not be willing to learn and correct? You can look at Show dogs any day of the week to see Dobes in correct weight yet I've heard people say those dogs don't count. What?! Your dog doesn't have to be a show dog to be in good condition.
Here's a dog that isn't overweight. Notice how you can just barely make out his last ribs. Notice his body isn't solid and smooth, like a tootsie roll, you can see definition in the shoulder. Notice how he doesn't have a rounded butt of fat. Notice how you can see a waist. Some dogs have a more defined tuck than others, but they should have one. This is my 7.5y male.
If your 100lb dog is actually supposed to be 85lbs, is being able to boast that your dog is 100lbs really more important than their health?! I just don't get it."
3 March 2017
- Got this today.
"Hey Canis Maximus,
On behalf of Vetary.com, I want to congratulate you on the Best Doberman Pinscher Breeder Award.
Vetary has analyzed top doberman pinscher breeders and cross referenced positive social mention data with top analytics platforms. Your site was a clear winner with U.S. pet owners over the last 12 months. For context, Vetary awards breeders with best-in-class online buzz, content, visuals, and most importantly, a strong cause and devotion toward their breed of dogs."
That's nice. Just hope this hasn't been sent to a few dozen other Doberman breeders heh heh
27 February 2017
- Last fundraiser update and donation. Thank you all who participated!
22 February 2017
- A couple weeks ago there was a heated discussion on Facebook regarding one dog.
It started by the dog's owner posting a rather biased and angry comment about this dog dying of DCM at the age of 9 and accusing the dog's breeder of selling her into a "puppymill" Doberman kennel in FL where she was bred and bred, and then dumped after her use came to an end. Familiar story, we've all heard this before.
The breeder counter-argued by stating that the dog was originally sold to CA and then the first owners were mislead and resold her to a commercial breeding facility. Her last years she spent with a different person who, I guess, rescued her.
Anyway, all the details and gossiping and slandering and guilt shaming are not really important.
What's important is that this is exactly the situation I avoid but not selling my dogs for breeding, or with breeding rights.
#1. Chances of my dogs ending up in such situations are pretty slim because they come with papers not allowing breeding - limited registrations.
#2. If the dog needs to be resold, it will be resold as a pet because - see above.
#3. I can trace where the dogs end up if something doesn't work out with the original owners because they practically always inform me because their dog means more to them than its reproductive organs (usually fixed by then).
#4. I will not end up in a situation where my name is smeared because someone by means of lying obtained my dog and bred the beep out of it because - see #1.
#5. Dealing with breeders is the worst there is in breeding. Starting in 2010-2011 I stopped doing full registrations because of my negative experience. And you know what? I never regretted it. Maybe I lose business but I know for sure my dogs won't be sold and bred and sold and bred over and over again thus using my
work to support someone else's lifestyle, and I know the situation this very well known breeder ended up in will not happen to me.
14 February 2017
- Our dogs in Florida:
Our dogs in Colorado:
13 February 2017
- Knuckling over/feet bowing in puppies.
Very common issue in large breed puppies. Some examples (although some puppies have it worse):
www.greatdanelady.com/articles/knucking... - more info.
A recent Facebook discussion prompted me to write a post on this because this happens often and owners, as well as vets, aren't always well informed. Based on the Facebook responses, this issue deserves some more discussion (I already had a post on this in my Blog).
Here are the responses you will most likely get:
1. "Go to a vet".
2. "They look to be bowing out. Rickets maybe?"
3. "This is called knuckling over... or some might call it buckling.
It is developmental orthopedic disease. At this age is most likely caused from lack of calcium... but there can be other causes."
4. "Knucking over is not due to a calcium deficiency... it is more likely to be the result of too high of a mineral content in the food, or an improper ratio of some mineral(s) to other(s). I would switch to a lower nutrient adult food, but only until it corrects (which will probably happen quickly)... then, back to a better, high nutrient food than you are using now."
5. "Definitely ask a vet but it looks like poor legs are bowing, my vet said my pup was starting to bow and i had to change her food, a bit more expensive but it has changed everything in her including her skin and coat."
6. "Watch the calcium/phosphorus ratios in kibble. Nature never gets it wrong either - RAW feed your pup. MEAT, MEAT, 10% BONE, 10% ORGAN WITH 5% BEING LIVER and rest 5% being any other organs, then more meat. Remember, meat is the biggest chunk then bone and organ. 80% meat - 10% bone - 10% organ."
7. "Cod liver oil pill once a day for a week will help also."
8. "Don't necessarily think it's serious. My pup did that for a bit. She's normal now."
9. "Mine did that off & on for probably her first 9 months. I asked a few vets a few different times & they said it's from growing & her muscles being used alot. I noticed it being worse after playing outside. I've never seen it since."
10. "My pup had this when he was little - basically it's because his diet was causing him to grow too quickly, but more specifically the bones were growing faster than the tendons which causes the problem.
We switched to a "large breed puppy" food which regulates growth and that really helped with the problem."
11. "Don't ask on Facebook. Take her to a vet."
Our response: Nothing to worry. Will go away in a week or two on its own. This is due to the difference in growth and weight of different body areas at this age. At 3mo the weight of the body, especially if your pup is chunky, is more than the legs can handle. As soon as there is extra growth height-wise, this will go away. No need for vets or extra care. More time in the sun, play time and puppy multi vitamins. Raw eggs will be good too. One of our puppy's vet suggested amputation scaring the beep out of the owners, all was back to normal in days.
2 February 2017
- This is how valuable lines are built - only with a focus on the future. When you are looking at a puppy and you know what bloodlines you want to cross it with and what you are going to get out of it. Champions come out of champions. I can't stress enough that to get a good dog you need to get it out of good parents. And good parents is not how sweet and loving they are or how good they are as house dogs, there is much more to what makes a dog suitable AND worthy of breeding.
Father and sons:
CH.Urbano del Diamante Nero
CH.Pathos delle Querce Nere
CH.Sant Kreal Zeus\r\n\r\n
1 February 2017
- We've been alerted on several occasions that our dogs' photos are used to scam people out of money, often times on craigslist. Don't be fooled.
Here is one of the crooks selling our 7-yo Shaherezada as a 2.5 yo Roxy, and a 4-mo puppy from half a decade ago as a 1.5yo Rusa. Outrageous!
30 January 2017
29 January 2016
- Our Fundraiser update 2.
Thank you for all your feedback. Second batch of photos from Canis Maximus buyers. Plus another donation to the rescue that is desperately trying to survive and feed their animals.
This will cover a lot of medication or pay for a couple spays/surgeries....
Thank you all.
28 January 2017
- Some more info on head bobbing in Dobermans from their owners.
"Here is a good video of head bobbing. I got my male when he was 10 months old and he had the first one shortly thereafter.
youtube.com/watch?v=DtPHKWADEQY He was fed immediately after shooting this video. Feeding stops the bobbing. He still has an occasional episode. He is 8 years old now."
"My male started with head bobbing when he was a year old. Did research on it and someone said they had used B50 so I tried it. It worked. He hasn't had any since and he's seven now. Lots about it on Utube too."
22 January 2016
- How much is the puppy? I came across an interesting discussion on Facebook. Below are pictures with prices - from the owners.
One more thing. What you see might be better than what it really is.
Example: cookbook recipes. They are always accompanied by beautiful appetite enticing pictures. But
in reality the food might be disgusting or not palatable. Like ginger orange beef. Looks good but I would never eat sweet beef.
Same with the pictures. A good ear crop, like recipe photos, will enhance the looks of any doberman, but won't change its quality. And of course, there are exceptions to any rule.
Here we go (prices under the pictures):
1. $0-$500 - gift, give-up, or rescue dogs.
2. ~$300-1400 - back-yard bred dogs (some owners are fully aware where they got their dog, and for some it was an eye opening experience about quality breeding)
3. ~$1500-$3000up - show/work bred dogs. While most Dobermans are beautiful by nature, when you got to category 1 (rescue and give-ups) and then to category 3 (show dogs) - anyone will see the difference in type and quality of breeding.
Most of these pictures are head-shots, and most of them look quite cute and you won't think there is anything bad, the dog looks like a normal doberman, but behind any head there is a body, and behind all this, there is a pedigree, and the dog's parents, and on top of that, there are ethical requirements, such as titling, dog selection, and health testing.
And then there are questionable cases. For a regular person, the dogs look good. For a show person, there are a number of conformation flaws making these dogs not desirable breeding candidates. But if we are not considering these dogs for breeding, they are very nice pet quality dogs. Usually this happens when the breeder gets his/her hands on some show stock, or dogs that weren't selected for the show rings but are still quite close to that in quality. In this case, what comes out of such breeding can hardly be attributed to the accomplishments of the breeder, as the original stock came from some one else's show breeding program. Another thing, not all show litters produce all show potentials, pet quality pups will be priced lower but are a better option than back-yard bred pups for the same price. As I have pointed out before, back-yard - is commercial. Meaning, you are not supporting someone's breeding program, which is usually a lifetime investment in the development of the breed, but rather someone's lifestyle and living expenses which has little to do with the improvement of the breed.
And then there are rip-off cases:
Poorly bred based on poor conformation
Solid black is a conformation flaw yet this very cute mutant puppy is sold at a show dog price:
Conclusion: know what you are buying. You get what you pay for.
17 January 2016
- The development of the breed.
Quality is quality. And you can see this in the dogs bred 50 years ago even if they look different from the modern type Dobermans.
Here is 1959 Gobi. Phenomenally strong, deep with lots of substance.
And here is 1970 Lord. Very nice specimen compared to nowadays dogs. Strong yet elegant.
Here are some more show dogs of the 70's.
As you see, quality is quality. That's why it's important to support breeders who breed quality. You cannot adhere to the breed standard and systematically breed quality without having breed specialists (judges) evaluate your work (attend dog shows).
How has the Doberman changed?
Here are the dogs of the 90's:
Compare to the 2010's:
It's clear that the overall look has become more smooth and polished, lines more appealing. Backs are stronger. Biggest changes are in:
- croups (=butts), better structured, better tail sets
- angulations, especially rear.
- chests, deeper and wider, with more pronounced front chests
- heads, more balanced, with significantly stronger underjaws
And again, we see improvement and changes thanks to the breeders dedicated to the postive development of the breed. Because evolution is always postive development.
Now lets take those who breed without any care for the improvement, conformation, temperament and health (you will hear various excuses, like we don't show, we don't
need to prove the quality of our dogs, shows are for snobs, blah-blah, all our dogs are healthy, we've never had xxx or yyy in our dogs, our dogs have great temperaments,
they are sweet and friendly and blah-blah). Do you think any of them could produce any of the above pictured dogs? No! But what they do is they use some one else's work
to their own benefit.
14 January 2017
- The true damage caused by Animal Rights radicals:
Ringling Bros to end in May! No more circus.
They pushed to stop the use of elephants, now the circus is closing down after 150 years. As with everything there are two sides to every story, theirs is just missing common sense and logic. They got to ban orcas at Seaworld, is Seaworld the next one out? And then it will be you, regular animal owners. Do you want to be told you are not good enough to own an animal? shouldn't eat what you eat? shouldn't crop/dock? Should spay/neuter as soon as possible? Do you want your choice of action and your decision making taken away from you by some uneducated family-less loser because that's what most of them are. But by believing all their "stories' you legitimize their actions. So, question them, always, demand proof, always, and fight for your choice to live your life and love your animals the way YOU want.
05 January 2017
- Have watched a great video on DCM - conference by leading Russian cardiologist Kamolov:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEfD0uEc5F4... It answered a few important questions.
1. Different breeds - same disease but different mutations.
2. All large breeds affected, and wolfhounds, spaniels, labs, mastiffs.
3. Up to 55% affected Dobermans.
4. Starting age - 6mo as the youngest but it's very rare. 10y - is also rare because its an inherited disease so most likely it's a secondary disease at this age, not genetically linked.
5. Genetically linked DCM hits before 9, very small chance after that. DCM as a secondary disease can be caused by viruses and infections.
6. Most common symptoms: shortness of breath, loss of appetite.
7. Blood test can show DCM as well: Troponin I - above 0.11.