30 April 2018
- Today's rant.
Probably many of you have heard about the new Doberman Diversity Project. I found it quite intriguing.
The biggest problem with the offered genetic test is the cost and the diseases screened by it. Since it's a new project, most of the breeding dogs worldwide have already been tested for the diseases (DCM1,2, vWD) offered at the cost of $130-135.
I'm not interested in retesting all my dogs all over again just to get their genetic diversity profile - that's the only thing I find useful to me.
Retesting 10 dogs just to get their genetic diversity graph will run around $1350 while they can offer a separate DNA test just for that for $40-50. Big difference, right?
Hope the lab can offer a separate test just for those who have already run other DNA tests on their dogs. I guarantee there will be a lot more people interested.
As of right now I don't think it's reasonable to retest my dogs just for one graph.
P.S. I ordered one test for one of my dogs that hasn't been vWD and DCM tested. It's been exactly 3 weeks - no test...
14 April 2018
- Goofy Don.
14 April 2018
- Oldie but goodie. Delberta is 8.5 yo.
07 April 2018
- Our weekends. Pups being affectionate with the visitors.
Puppy pick up day
02 April 2018
- Real Dober-men have two balls!
30 March 2018
- Our big and very sweet puppy, Cash, at the vet, getting ready for his trip to his new home :) he was very curious about this unfamiliar dog.
17 March 2018
- Our breeding. Nice ear crops. It's a lot of hard work to get them to stand up. And there are times when they don't.
6 March 2018
- This is a prime example of how unpredictable DCM is:
http://doberbase.ru/index.php...Anubis+v.d.+Wartburgstadt A large litter out of a long-lived dad (but not DCM clear ancestry) and an allegedly DCM-linked mom. This combo ended up in 4 DCM deaths and 6 long lived dogs.
What a riddle this disease is!
3 March 2018
- 7y.o. Mina (P-litter) came for a visit and to find a new friend.
20 February 2018
- Me ranting:
I have joined a Facebook page where Dobe puppies are advertised for sale. One group decided to impose "Stricter" rules: breeders have to perform at least the necessary DNA tests for the betterment of the breed (which are very few - not much help for the breed). Numerous breeders advertise: DM, DCM1, VWD - clear or carrier.
DM testing for this breed is useless. This is not a Doberman-typical disease. You should request hip certification which is more spread than DM. In my 25 years with the breed I haven't seen a single case. DNA testing is cheap. But DNA testing and Hip certification PLUS at least a cardio ECHO - that's what will weed out BYB's. This simple and not very expensive DNA test won't. DCM 1 is a highly questionable test. There are too many negative dogs still dying of DCM. A much better alternative is an echo study. The full testing panel vs a one-time DNA swab will show a potential buyer who is more invested in the breed. Most of my dogs are DCM1 negative and ALL are DCM2 negative, which means, based on the 50-60% disease rate, this testing is highly unreliable. Thus I usually do not advertise the results as they do not guarantee the absence of DCM, what I do mention is that the dogs are ECHO'ed. The cost of the "real" tests (the ones that are really needed) far exceeds what most BYB's or whatever you call amateur breeders can afford and accept paying for, so they supplement this with a number of nice-looking abbreviations like vWD, DM, DCM blah-blah clear, and it's a much higher chance for your dog to get Wobbler's than this DM, or real DCM than this DCM1 and DCM2 tests can prove.
16 January 2018
I. Show/utility breeders - breeding for a purpose.
a) caring, friendly, respectful.
b) opposite to a).
c) know what they are doing,
d) opposite to c).
II. Other breeders.
a) one-timers - for "the health of the dog", for "the fun of it", "to witness the miracle of birth". Usually have one dog.
b) serial one-timers - same as a), just more often. Can have two dogs, or one dog and keep its progeny.
c) breeding for a purpose that is not a purpose - "I breed the total dobe!"
d) just because I can'ers
e) self-sustained breeding - have a male and female, nothing's needed.
g) fluffers: they put a lot of fluff into their breeding reasoning and advertising, i.e. both dogs weight over 100 lbs and stand at 30", or proudly stating that they don't breed Z-dogs, or my dogs have an awesome temperament - as if these are valid points for justifying breeding.
h) one step closer to or one step behind I. - those who do health testing but still not at the level of I. breeders, and no show/utility.
All backyard breeders fall into category II.
I love seeing how people recommend a backyard breeder they got a puppy from just because the whelping pen was clean, pups were cute and breeder friendly. That's how it's supposed to be no matter what category you are in, but if you are one of Category II - you are a backyard breeder. Difference is some are nice and some are nasty.
And most people substitute professionalism with a personal attitude. Being friendly with a buyer doesn't make you a professional and knowledgeable breeder you are supposed to be. Sales skills do not "=" good breeding.
13 January 2018
- From Northrop Grumman ad. Cyber Doberman.
12 January 2018
- In 2012 it became clear that we needed a new professionally built kennel. We started working with the zoning office to obtain all necessary paperwork to build it. All paperwork was filed and we were getting ready to finalize the process with the zoning board when one Saturday morning an unknown person appeared at the door saying she was from the local humane foundation and was a humane investigator and she was there to help us prepare for the zoning board.
Some will find this stupid, I have conflicting feelings about my actions that day, but I let her in - she sounded too official and too willing to help. All seemed to go well. She made some suggestions which, in essence, were unnecessary because the purpose of the whole process was to build a new professional facility and whatever wasn't up to her liking would have been resolved any way.
4 days before my zoning board I receive a packed with all my documentation. It looked too big than my original package so I looked through. As I start looking through it, I discover a 6-page report authored by this person. What I read was as if I was reading a horror kennel story of someone else but not me, not our dogs. My world was crushed. The next blow came within an hour of me getting this in the mail. "Someone" released it online. And there it went...
What happened after is similar to a nuclear explosion of your life. It divided it into "before" and "after". I couldn't believe someone I trusted could do this. There were no signs or indication that there was something wrong. This snake, this nasty creature, I can't call this person a human, has apparently been a serial breeder harasser. A person who so willingly and easily walks over another person's life, privacy and dignity can't be called a human.
The online post went viral and upset the community who flooded the zoning hearing with all their outcries of doing something bad to me. And I stood there not comprehending how my plan to build a good facility turned into so much bullying.
I stood there, strong, in pain, resilient and alone. I did nothing wrong. Nothing wrong. But no one listened to me. Husband suggested changing the kennel name, closing the website, changing everything. My answer was always the same: "Why? I did nothing wrong to deserve this".
The authorities were inundated with emails and calls and were not happy a simple kennel permit turned into a witch hunt. They'd come to my house unannounced: just to talk, as they said. They tried to explain that that person didn't mean it, didn't expect it to go so bad, said some things weren't written the right way in that report. I didn't care any more. I was so crushed the emotional pain went physical. Who've been extensively bullied knows the feeling. You hurt inside so much it hurts your whole body. I didn't know where to hide, how to run away from it. I stopped eating. I got paranoid because of all these friendly visits from law enforcement. I got depressed and needed help.
I lost the kennel permit, of course. Neighbors wouldn't want it close to their properties although we all have large properties. But the stories they told where shameful. I wasn't ashamed of myself, I was ashamed of what adults can lie about to get what they want.
My case opened up a few tumors.
I find it ridiculous, and I'm not a native born, so I can't justify why a kennel operator in this county needs:
1. zoning permit
2. kennel permit
3. dealer's permit
4. business license
Just for one business! Gov-t overreach? I've had a kennel permit all along but that wasn't enough. Gov-t screw up my fault?
Filing a lawsuit was a fantastic blow to the county and local hot heads who can't use logic and believe everything that's written. And everybody quickly left me alone. Lawyers DO help. Unfortunately the judge, who saw a huge conflict of interest of a humane investigator going house to house and taking animals for the shelter this investigator owned, gave this person immunity and we couldn't proceed (I suspect multi-millionaire mommy-dearest was involved).
Here I'd like to point out that the only official report there is states: "No violation of animal law." So concise and so true. And such a start difference from all the huff and puff of what caused this ridiculous nightmare.
I have built a kennel. In a different area. To begin with, the only goal I had was to build a facility and what the officials made out of a seemingly simple process is on their conscience now. Everyone will answer for their doings. The author of the report has. The county quickly denounced any doings with this person. No one hears or deals with this being any more. And the county passed a regulation forbidding people like her to enter people's premises and/or to take their animals. No more. It's been a long time coming! A decade for sure. Maybe I was meant to happen in this county - like a bump on the road that throws the driver's car off, and then someone finally does something about it. People like this person are cancerous tumors that only take away the resources from their hosts. I have a kennel, I offer services, I create, I build, I pay taxes and salaries, thus putting bread on several family's plates. And that person only lives off the work of others, not producing anything positive or creative, just living off of pain.
My new kennel was a mount Everest for a broken climber, my depression therapy, a story of resilience and survival against all odds.
Old kennel New kennel
As you see in the photos, absolutely nothing, no ground, no reason to cause the mass hysteria.
The Roberts Law firm handled the initial case. The Prados Law is the firm that guards our interests nowadays.
I want everyone to know this: I was never accused of animal cruelty and neglect yet I still get angry emails like "burn in hell". They don't hurt me, not any more. Ugly words don't hit the target. If I survived what an ordinary kennel wouldn't - I must be really good at what I'm doing. What an animal radical wrote online years ago - that's in the past. That fall didn't define me but how I managed it, what good came out of that horrible experience - that's the real deal.
I want everyone to know that our kennel is legally protected. And we will fight anyone who confuses freedom of speech with freedom of insult.
And this is my story. And I stay strong.
10 January 2018
- A little more about the ears and tails.
Everybody who has ever owner a cropped dog knows what a pain it is to post the ears. Some are lucky and ears stand up fast. But most aren't so lucky and it takes them months and meters of tape. And there is a great deal of cropped dog owners who have tried unsuccessfully.
What to do then?
Now, this is some advice to those who couldn't get the ears to stand. I don't want any bashing about how this is cruel - we are in the US.
I'm OK with cropped and natural ears, I have both kinds, and with long tails as well as docked tails. I'm OK with all that.
I personally don't like failed cropped ears.
I've tried a few options.
Here is one I discovered a couple years ago. Not all vets do this. But this has worked in 90% of corrective surgeries on my dogs.
It doesn't work on ears that fold over or are bent in. And not always on very long ear crops.
Here is a cartilage repair. The cuts are done at the base of the ear. Cartilage is moved up and adjusted.
P.S. This is done by an experienced vet!!!
Note: Scars will remain. I've had people ask me about the scars. Funny people. You want the ears standing, right?
On black dogs well-healed incisions won't be very visible.
30 December 2017
- Honestly, why does everyone think that if a puppy is older than 8 weeks and not sold something might be wrong with it?!
I'm a kennel where the goal is not to get rid of a dog but find it the right family no matter how long it takes.
I sell my dogs whenever I want to sell them, when I think they are ready to be sold... because I can... because they are my dogs... because i have space, time and a nice kennel to do so.
If a breeder drops the price due to age, you know the breeder wants to get rid of the dog. If the breeder prices the dog based on its qualities and value, such breeder appreciates the dog for characteristics more important than months and days.
Many call about an older puppy because they are easier to manage, and then prople start overthinking and scaring themselves that if the dog hasn't been sold - no one wanted it for some bad reason... Listen, don't call about older dogs and older puppies, get an 8-week old one.
As I see it, an older puppy has lots of benefits.
1. All shots are done.
2. Ears cropped, healed. And if standing, you don't need to spend meters of tape and pounds of tampons to do so. This should be an added value to the dog.
3. You can tell the dog's temperament better.
4. Crate training started. Learning to go outside for potty.
5. Not as fragile as a 8wk old once.
6. More time with siblings.
These are all benefits provided to the buyer by the breeder. Appreciate that.
And that's how it is.
28 December 2017
- We lost a dog today.
Plans, hopes - lost as well.
Pain is deep. He was only 8 months old.
He died at the vet clinic.
He died of DCM.
He was diagnosed just 2 days ago - he had troubled breathing.
He was our German import we hand picked. We could have picked any other dog around the world but we picked him.
We had so many plans for him.
What I'm going to write here is the truth about DCM. Have no illusions or high expectations.
1. He didn't have a pedigree full of long-lived dogs but, based on many established criteria, it wasn't a high risk pedigree. Both parents are not young, with clear cardio tests that are recent, coefficient of inbreeding is low, questionable ancestors are pretty far in the pedigree and they are mixed with long-lived dogs well. NONE OF THIS WORKS.
2. Various cardio tests, DNA tests, blood tests - DO NOT PREVENT THE DISEASE.
3. Current DCM tests, these DCM1 and DCM2 are NOTHING. They don't test anything. Those who demand puppies to be DCM-negative, do not understand DCM.
4. Low coefficient of inbreeding is NOTHING. Dog can still die young.
5. Tested parents don't give you any guarantee at all.
6. I do not understand how a dog as young as 8 months can die of DCM but, as you see, it can.
7. Right now I'm in the shoes of a buyer. Because I bought this dog from some other breeder. What will the breeder do after this? Would you be angry with the breeder? The breed? What would you do?
8. What will your breeder do if their puppy sold to you died of DCM so early?
9. Will we ever find a mechanism to test and avoid DCM, the real one? Because what we have right now is not working...
10. When you go through such a loss, it really tests you as a breeder. I love big beautiful Dobermans. But are they worth breeding if their health is so fragile?
09 December 2017
- New resident of Las Vegas.
26 November 2017
- Here is our new German import puppy. PUPPY. Which means he is still growing and developing. Here are his photos from yesterday's show where the judge took off points because... wait for it... Puppy is too big! Growing puppy... normal height... too big!
Boooo to the judges, dog or human, who think they are gods.
07 August 2017
- The longer I breed - the more information becomes available - the harder the choices - the more confusing it gets.
Why can't we, the breeders, fix the DCM problem in Dobermans?
Because it's a complex problem. And we don't have all the facts and factors.
1. The amount of dogs affected is scary high - over 50%. Which leaves little gene pool to work with. Problem 1.
2. Problem 2 is that Problem 1 leaves us some dogs to work with but we DO NOT know which are those dogs.
3. Problem 3 is that we have no solid tests to identify which dogs are affected and which are not.
4. If you look at the above picture you will see how DCM is inherited. Problem is, even with the current two DNA tests, we cannot identify which dog has one mutation, or two, or none. That's where the problem lies.
"The complexity of dilated cardiomyopathy (DCM) is reflected in the uncertainty of the results of genetic testing. Dogs that test negative might later develop the disease. Likewise, those that test positive might never develop signs or only experience a mild form of the disease. The erratic clinical manifestation of the disease is rooted in its mode of inheritance: autosomal dominant with variable penetrance."
5. There are more mutations than two identified.
6. The two identified were mostly based on the American bloodlines. We've tested our dogs for this new DCM 2 and not one tested positive. Taking into consideration the high percentage of the DCM rate, this really makes the test quite questionable.
7. By studying databases, Nature, or genetics always surprise you which makes breeding choices even harder. A long living dog out of short lived dogs, is it worth breeding? And vice versa. A short lived dog out of long lived dogs, is it safe?
There are more questions than any breeder can answer.
If a scientist cannot figure out this puzzle, no breeder can.
25 July 2017
- Our bloodlines.
Time for some analysis.
Our breeding program is based on several different bloodlines. Most important females were:
- CH. Zara di Altobello (for show, size and type),
- CH. Sant Kreal Shaherezada (for show and longevity),
- Hismerh Katana Ko, IPO-3 (for work).
Early on we realized that it's highly risky to limit the breeding program to just one line. Because once you get some problems in your lines, often times it's easier to "kill" the line (=not pursue, i.e. spay and adopt out) than to try and fix it. And then you are back to square 1, and have to start all over. Which can be devastating to the breeder because it's time and emotion consuming. And we don't get younger.
So, most of our dogs are descendants of these 3 females. We have a few others but they are young and not established.
Unfortunately, the Doberman breed is affected by several health problems. Most serious ones are:
1. lack of genetic diversity,
2. cardio (DCM).
These two problems are different but somewhat interrelated.
I regularly check what's being bred out there and everything is the same with very few exceptions. We rarely look for a new dog but always keep this option open in case there is something new out there.
A new dog has to satisfy a few requirements, such as more or less healthy pedigree, new lines, etc.
To this day, I cannot put HEALTH, CONORMATION and WORKABILITY in the same equation. But carrying out several bloodlines helps in achieving certain (different) results which can be all joined in one down the road.
Most buyer want big, heavy, cute looking dogs. Such dogs DO NOT live long in general, because such dogs are either bred specifically for showing (workability and health stop being a priority) or by greeders. In this case, buyers should understand that they are part of the problem.
The amount of information is overwhelming, because more and more databases are created. So, the best solution is to establish your own bloodline where you know everything about the dogs you use.
Both cardio and genetic diversity (The reason Dobermans regularly die so young is because the gene pool is extremely depleted.) are extremely difficult problems to solve by just one breeder, this has to be a joint effort but that's not the case because every breeder thinks they are the real breed guru. They have their own way.
Another problem is that breeding results are retrospective. Which means you get results years later and you can analyze and adjust your breeding program only after at least half a decade has passed.
For example, at this time we are getting feedback regarding our breeding 7-10 years ago, who is alive and who is not. This makes breeding extremely tricky. And you cannot fix breed issues until you bred and got those issues. And you cannot fix your past breedings, they already happened, and they are what they are, but based on your past successes or failures, you can improve your future breedings, and then wait another 6+ year to see if your choices were the right ones.
So, to better our future, and because, due to our geographical location, we regularly experience "genetic hunger", we will introduce several new dogs. To see how they do health-wise.
Kalabria. Not the best dog conformation-wise. But her dad tested cardio-normal at 10yo, and her mom - at 8. Both alive. Mom's dad is alive as well. Dad's mom lived to be almost 13, had a normal cardio test right before she died, and we didn't have that lineage.
Pasodoble. This is an interesting "case" for us. He is not a show dog. He looks like an average Doberman. He is not the mainstream type. Most won't consider him worthy, because he is quite an ordinary dog. But the reason we got him was his pedigree. No, it's not DCM-free, but there is a huge number of old dogs there, his parents had normal cardio checks, 3 out of 4 grandparents still alive (4th died at 10). But what's more important is his old Soviet Doberman breeding. Everything you read about Doberman history, how they were, behavior, size, type, police work, normal life expectancy - all that was in those lines.
I think that our Pasodoble is like the last mammoth, almost extinct. Getting those old dogs was great luck. But he is not the dog you'd breed to any other dog. So, we've got some little pups out of him right now - we will observe how they grown. The plan is to wait with breeding him until he is a lil older and test him and go off his parents' life expectancy.
Darwin. Our new addition. He's got the looks we need. Keep in mind, quality breeding is not just about health, our just about shows or bitework. It's everything. So, Darwin has lovely parents. His dad is from a kennel - we don't have similar bloodlines, So, something new for us. His mom's dad is 10 right now. His pedigree has one of the dogs I've always wanted to have in my pedigrees, the long lived CH. Wanja Wandor.
So, as you see, there is a LOT of work involved in establishing a good breeding program. But at least we've got something to improve genetic diversity here. And with the finish of our kennel construction, we'll be able to travel more which will give us more opportunities, something we've always wanted and needed.
22 July 2017
- Some breeder feedback regarding current DCM tests:
"No value in Pdk4 other than possible research and that imo is questionable. I don't have faith in the muers genes. She was quick to make them commercial. The research was not peer reviewed and no one was able to replicate her results so far . Dogs homo both genes living long. Dogs neg both genes dying young of dcm. No value other than possible research."
"I have one I bred that's neg both and been diagnosed. There really isn't any value in those genes other than bad breeders insist on neg genes the advert litter dcm free.
More harm than good".
17 July 2017
- OLet's talk about the nasty: various dog discharges.
I realized a couple weeks ago that not all vets are equally knowledgeable and experienced as you'd expect them to be.
1. Smegma. Male dogs only.
"Smegma is the yellow or greenish pus that sometimes oozes out of a dog's penis. Fortunately for your dog, and your embarrassment levels, this discharge is natural and is usually no cause for concern".
This is not an infection and does not need to be treated. Usually happens in intact males.
Advice: don't worry.
2. Vaginitis. Females only.
Young female dogs less than one year of age may develop 'juvenile vaginitis'. The cause of this condition is unknown, but generally resolves with age.
Adult vaginitis is a different story.
It is a fairly common disorder in dogs of all ages. Most cases seen in dogs are caused by the caustic and irritating effects of urine on the vaginal mucosa or lining. Infections from bacteria, yeasts, and viruses are known to occur within the vagina.
Non-infectious inflammations of the vagina also occur due to the effects of shampoos, detergents, cleaning agents, and other solutions.
Advice: in a young dog, don't worry unless it's significant, then go see a vet.
3. Pyometra is a serious infection that occurs in the uterus. Adult intact females.
Pyometra is an important disease to be aware of for any dog owner because of the sudden nature of the disease and the deadly consequences if left untreated
Symptoms: fever, abdominal swelling, lethargy, discharge, rear leg weakness.
Advice: see a vet immediately. Spay.
4. Papilloma virus.
Uncommon in the US, common is Europe. As any virus, it dies out once it has run its course. Papilloma grows and then falls off on its own.
Advice: don't worry.
5. Cherry eye.
Eye gland comes out. Uncommon in Dobermans.
Advice: see a vet.
6. Nasal discharge.
With any nasal discharge, unless it's clear like water. See a vet. Your dog will definitely need antibiotics.
7. Eye discharge.
Don't confuse with sleep boogers. Eye discharge is white/yellow/greenish.
Advice: see a doctor.
If it's minor, there are ways you can deal with it. Wash. See if it's dust/dirt/allergy related. And see a vet.
Eye trauma will also lead to eye discharge.
8. Ear infections.
Most common are ear mites and yeast.
Advice: see a vet. And keep in mind, this is the case that's easier to prevent than to treat. Check your dog's ears!
Yes, dogs get them too.
Most dog owner agree acne happens due to hormones: growing dogs, nursing females.
10. Skin issues.
Advice: see a vet.
30 June 2017
- Why does DCM have to be so tricky?!
Here is a pedigree: http://doberbase.ru/index.php?a... With half a dozen DCM deaths and a lot of inbreeding in just 3 generations, this dog is 12 and very well alive! Tricky Nature!
24 June 2017
- What the hell is wrong with people?!
My morning started with stumbling on yet another "warlock" site selling my pups from 4-5 years ago, followed by someone texting me about it, saying the person (=crook) wants buyers to wire the money for a puppy!
The site is only a week old. But all the sweet honey written all over it makes them look so good. Problem is no quality puppy costs $800 in the US.
22 June 2017
- And again I come across a website offering my pups (5 or 6 listed) from our past breedings as their own. What's wrong with people? Www.warlockdoberman.com
30 May 2017
- Problems of European Doberman breeding in the US. As I see it.
Americans import a lot of dogs from Europe. And one might think that this should benefit breeding on this continent, but unfortunately this is not the case.
1) Most dogs end up in pet families, or families that might breed or stud out on a small scale.
2) There is no centralized database where you can look up a dog.
3) The European show world is underdeveloped on this continent, which means owners don't go, don't show, breeders don't see and have no information of what dogs/bloodlines are available in the States.
4) Because of 3), owners rarely health screen their dogs, and breeders cannot use untested dogs in breeding. Unless it's a "my nieghbor/friend has a dog and I have a dog, so let's breed them" situation.
5) Because the European dogs are limited, lack of diversity affects quality of Doberman population in the States. It's easier to breed a cute face, than an overall top quality dog.
6) Breeders who try to establish a bloodline are the ones suffering the most from lack of diversity and their geographical location because it's very problematic to have to go to Europe for every breeding.
7) Quality will always decrease without the import of new lines that need to work well with the breeder's stock which is hard to gage when you import a tiny puppy that might develop into a good dog or might not, it's a test of time.
8) Good stud owners aren't always easy to approach here than in Europe.
9) The US - very widely spread out doberman imports, that aren't always easy to find.
25 May 2017
- How well is your Doberman exercised...
The more exercise your muscles get, the more obvious they become. If you've ever had to wear a cast on a leg, you'd know how fast the muscle mass recedes and how long it takes to build it up again.
Now, I've got an eye for that. And you can't lie about it because I will know if your dog gets enough exercise - can't hide the muscles!
If your dog develops bad habits, and you are not willing to work on that, and return the dog to the breeder, and the breeder sees flat muscles, well, whose fault is that the dog is bored, under exercised and is just trying to entertain itself?
So, here we go:
Bullky, well defined in the first photo, and flat, smooth, round in the second. Which dog runs more?
Conclusion: If you get a Doberman, make sure EVERY day they are able to do this:
15 May 2017
- Beautiful photography.
11 May 2017
- More on corrective surgeries.
I know one of our past buyers used the button method to get the ears to stand.
And here is how the vertical stitches inside the lenth of the ear look like - especially goid for the ears that fold over.
10 May 2017
- Some more feedback about size and weight. What Dobe owners have to say:
"First let me start off by saying that I love Lexie no matter how big she is. I am curious though about how big the standard is for a 10 month old female European Dobermann as I've seen many posts and pictures of other Dobermanns at her age and they are way bigger than her. She is currently 10-month-old and about 26 1/2 inches and only weighs 54 pounds. Her mom weighed 67-70 pounds and her dad weighed 85 pounds."
1) My Lexi is 1 1/2 and weighs 82lbs. Dr says no more than 80 lbs.
2) BabyJane was petite but with perfect lines. A beautiful little lady. Regardless of her size just be thankful you are a Doberman parent.
3) Our girl stopped growing in height at that age, she was and is as big as Lexie. She was also very slim/athletic and about the same weight. By now (she now is 17 mo) she weighs 69 pounds. So imho Lexie is right on schedule.
4) She is gorgeous....All though there are some size standards for Dobbies I personally feel that as long as they eat well, pooch well, ' guard well, play well....they are a Happy and healthy member of the family..small is always better less health problems & longer life. So enjoy the special moments they offer...
5) Hijack at 11 mouths 80lbs
6) Our girl was small at 1 1/2 and all of a sudden grew.She is now 3 and 77 lbs.
7) The 26 inch height is good. It is more important to have a square build; height equal length. I think she is fine at that weight. Females in the 65 to 75 range is about right confirmation wise. That is much better than too heavy. Anyone promoting a Doberman over 90 pounds or so even for a male doesn't know what they are talking about.
8) The word Superior means better. Bigger dobes are not better. Is a gimmick for back yard breeders to sell to unsuspecting people.
9) She looks great to me and she is still very young don't get hung up on weight lean muscle is ideal and she is still maturing.
10) I don't get the size obsession either it's saddens me how everyone seems to want obese larger than standard Doberman especially when they haven't even reached full maturity
11) Perfect... my female Zeva is about 80 pounds
12) My 3 year old euro bitch is 24.5" and around 60 lbs. Intact and raw fed.
13) A little over two 75 lbs
I don't understand the weight obsession either. Just recently a person was looking for a puppy to resemble their departed 160lb Doberman. Now that's beyond insane.
The weight and size depend on many factors.
1. Breeding. Smaller dogs vs larger dogs. But larger dogs can still produce smaller dogs.
2. Lack of proper nutrition, illness the first months of a dog's life can affect the size.
3. Show breeders produce more standard and predictable sizes than breeders who just produce without proper selection principles.
4. Purpose. Example: If I have a smaller dog, I will breed it to a larger dog, of course. Because I would want an average size. Average size is big enough. There is no need to want more than that. A 90-lb male is a lot of a male. Why want more?
If I just want to get puppies, I will breed whatever I have to whatever else I have, and I will get whatever I get. There is no breeding planning, no selection, and no substantial reason for this breeding to take place. But it takes place. And usually oversized or weird sized dogs come from such breedings.
And It is up to you what to support.
30 April 2017
- About the ears...
Not all ears stand up after cropping and posting. And there are many reasons to that:
1. High set or low set
2. Strength and thickness of the cartilage
3. Broken cartilage
4. Cropped length
6. Ear thickness
7. Calcium deficiency
8. Human factor
9. Poorly cropped.
What to do:
1. Contact the vet who cropped.
2. Leave it be.
3. Call local great dane/boxer breeders (they all crop their dogs) and inquire about where they get the ears done, ask other vets.
Here are the ears after one plastic surgery:
And after second surgery:
Fix-up plastic surgery:
1. Vertical cuts on the inside, stitched
2. Cuts at the base of the ear, at the base of the head, to adjust cartilage or remove extra skin and pull the ears up
3. Implants, mesh or wire
4. Silicone injections
5. Length shortening
The younger the dog the faster everything heals. If with a regular ear crop, you are looking at 2-3 weeks of healing, plastic surgery (especially at the base) will take longer. Some vets will only do plastic surgery on very young dogs.
At the same time, don't expect perfect ears until the change of all baby teeth (7-ish months).
Often times, the ears can be easily fixed by taking off some length. Show breeders love leaving the whole length - have some head with your ears...
We've had such experience when one of our imports arrived with nice but super long ears that wouldn't stand. Another vet took a few inches off and they stood up very
fast and didn't need any more posting or fixing. That's why I prefer medium cuts.
For example, these ears can be fixed either by vertical incisions on the inside or by removing the length:
Not all vets are competent enough to crop Doberman ears. These are not bully ears.
Here is a re-crop example:
When ear start healing, scabs start drying up shrinking the skin. So, it's important to tape the ears during this process. even just for 10 hours, untaping for the night.
Important to know that the ear posting and the results are the responsibility of the owner. The breeder has no power to predict how well and soon they get
to stand, the breeder usually is not the one who crops the ears. When cropping ears, like with any cosmetic surgery, you have to realize that there are no guarantees.
20 April 2017
- Veterinarian incompetence we've had to deal with!
"Everything is going good. Took Baron to vet everything checked out but his legs. Vet said his legs were unusually big for 8 weeks compared to the rest of his body."
A puppy bumped his head and got a swelling on top of the head. Owners take him to the vet, the vet tells them the puppy has a whole in the brain and liquid is leaking, the puppy has hydrocephalus. To my question how she determined that, she responded they palpated it. No xrays were taken.
Needless to say, that was rubbish, the bump went away in 2 weeks.
A healthy puppy was placed in a family. A little later we got the following email:
"I hope all is well.
Second visit went ok. He's 22lbs. The vet x-rayed his front legs; primarily concerned with his left front leg. It appears to be abnormal and not growing the same as the right (knuckle is larger and bone slightly shorter than the right) . She stated she thinks it may be from a previous injury (fracture) or congenital. She's talking about possible amputation, etc ... Craziness! Personally, I don't think she knows exactly what she is talking about, and I will be finding another vet. On a positive note, it doesn't seem to impede his movements or bother him.
To me, he appears to be slightly bow legged. Research reveals that it may be caused from too much protein, and by switching from puppy food to adult food (higher calcium), it usually corrects it within a few months.
The leg issue has been discussed in our Blog twice. This is something that goes away within days/weeks. Amputation! Talk about costly vet school programs creating such doctors!
We took our pup to the vet yesterday. ()
We had quite a day at the vet - we went to two different vets yesterday, both ended up being STAUNCHLY against ear cropping and were not afraid to let us know what they thought of us or how cruel and painful what we had done was, even with our children in the room!! I could not believe how we were treated and what was said to us. We are in the process of finding a vet around here with a different mind frame, but so far we are having a difficult time. ()
We really feel as if we couldn't believe anything of the first two vets. They both said that his infection was horrible, but we were wondering if they were more disturbed by the cropping - having not seen it before. We are not really sure what to do at this point.
We are thinking of waiting until Thursday to go to the third vet. ()
I appreciate your help! We are just looking for some advice with someone with experience on this because neither vet was willing to help us at all.
You have an ok doctor and an experienced nurse, who will you rather listen to? The Doctor. That's why you 1) should find a breeder who has very broad experience of the dogs and the breed, 2) should consult with the breeder if the vet diagnosis sounds too unreal/ridiculous/insane, 3) shouldn't blindly trust the vets.
14 April 2017
- Our old gal Dimetra, here at almost 8.
2 April 2017
- Ear crop. What to expect:
1st week after surgery, the ear might look like this. A lil rough. The edges look so thick when an older pup is cropped. Best age is 7-9 weeks, from the point of healing fast.
This is a slighty infected ear crop. Use Neosporin or antibiotics. Overall, dealing with the crop is quite a pain, especially the first two weeks.
Ncely healing ear:
One the best methods to care for the ears while they heal. Don't know how to do this, need to learn.
My vet's technique:
So poorly stitched, doesn't look professional:
Interesting. Looks interesting and effective:
Ear looking perfect. Ideal.
30 March 2017
- Recent Facebook post:
"On the day of yesterday, I passed away the bitch Alexandra the great happy fly, I get to the farm and found the bitch lying on the grass, and even hot, got into the car and urgent for the vet, they couldn't do anything, And I told them to look that could have been killed, since he had no bite, no nothing,
Today I was told that I was from the heart as he has a side bigger than the other, (dilated cardiomyopathy), that's a bummer, my head is spinning and I wonder, if the parents passed all tests of the heart, as I pass that to me Bitch,
When a dog dies of DCM at 1.5yo - this is very-very sad and a reason for the breeder to rethink the breeding preferences.
Could this have been prevented? Let's look at the pedigree:
We have close inbreeding on Infinity Fly, then 3 times Paola Penelopa. No real long lived dogs, not much genetic diversity to thin out bad genes. And apparently the dad's sister died young of DCM.
So, while we can't tell for sure how long the dogs are going to live, there are things we can choose to avoid, like pedigrees with no long lived dogs. Laws of nature are not ours to play with, and yes, there have been long-lived dogs out of not long-lived dogs, but just by looking at this pedigree there is nothing for the longevity to come out of.
Here is an interesting question for all:
"Those of you that have lost a Dobie to DCM or even multiple dobies would you always have a doberman even though you know the risk of losing them at such young ages? I have 3 doberman and I can't imagine owning another breed but if they were to pass at a young age I don't know If I could take that chance again."
- Had 3 dobies. 2 died of DCM. 21 month old. 10 years old. Number 3 is now just turned 7 years old, still alive but on DCM meds.
Never ever again will I own a Dobermann!!! I love the breed, but I can't do this anymore. It's to hard and not worth it.
From now on I will own only street dogs!!!
- Not until the breed gets healthier... love them, totally broke my heart...not taking the risk until testing and breeding gets better.
- I haven't lost mine to DCM, he'll be 9 this year. But I've had too many friends lose theirs. Purpose bred crossbreeds for me from now on, or purebreds utilizing diversity testing in pairings.
- you better make sure they are health testing those crossbreed parents because 'mutts' are no longer healthier than purebreds - they never really were - hybrid vigor was a wrong analysis.
- I have my 11th adopted/rescued Doberman. Out of the 11 only 2 had DCM. I'll be getting the my newest adoptee (11/5/2016) tested soon. I lost my last one to DCM on 11/1/2016. I just cannot be without a Doberman. So many looking for forever homes.
- Yes I have and yes, with no hesitation, I will have a Dobie again. There is nothing compared to how they love you. They put their whole heart, soul and everything into loving their family.
- I will always have a dobie. I have owned them for 22 years. I have had 6 all together. I have lost 2 of them to Dcm. I lost one 18 years ago and second one in September of 2016. I also own great Danes they are also heartbreaking to own some times but I will also always have a Dane.
- Jade is my First Doberlilly.. Regardless of there health issues I would always have one.. The only thing that would stop me would be old age only Beaucse Dobies need a lot of exercise..
- I've had 8 over the last 23 years. Lost 3 to sudden death DCM. Still can't see myself without them.
- Yes - I would love to have a Dobermann again although our family lost our beloved Nova - aged 8 years to DCM. It was the worst thing I?d gone through in my whole life when she passed away, but I have never experienced such a personality
- The love and devotion of a Doberman is unmatched to any, since I was 14, now 60+ nothing but Doberman. Lost 1 last November, at 7yo, still have my adopted Albion female 11 years old, and new puppy European doberman at 10 weeks old.
- I lost the love of my life, Phoenix, this past April at 3 1/2 yrs, within 6 weeks of diagnosis. Totally heartbroken, and his best buddy Willow, my 5 year old dobie, has never been the same since.
The pain was and still is so great, sometimes I feel I just can't breath. So, that's when I started looking for a male dobie, and we now have Baci! It was the best thing I did. He will never replace Phoenix, but having him just makes everything complete again. Willow, is coming around slowly, but I do see her spirit alive again. So, YES, I would run and buy another dobie, there is no breed like them. The love they give, is worth the heartache.
- I have had 10 Dobermans in the past 40 years. I lost my first and 6th to DCM and now my 51/2 year old Ch. has been diagnosed with it. I will never be without a Doberman.
- Yes, nothing but a Doberman. But something really needs to be done on our doberman breed and the DCM. It's so heartbreaking enough to lose them, let alone having to worry. They are the best breed in the world.
- I have lost 3 to DCM /CHF our first male was 6 & 1/2 yrs old and our other two were older and lived wonderful lives .I could never be without a Dobermann they have my heart
- My sweet boy died suddenly of DCM. I tried to get another Dobie, but I just couldn't. Every time I thought about it, I just fell apart. I now have a Rottweiler puppy.
- No other dog could replace my Heidi. Dobies are special. But I cannot have another. I adopted a rescue mutt.
- I will NEVER own another breed of dog, having owned a Dobermann
- On my 4th dobie 2 died young one was 2 the other was 5 but my first Dob was 10 best breed ever will always have a Dob in my life
- I'll tell you what, despite the risk, I will jump on the chance to give the best life possible to ANY Doberman! Whether it's only a couple of years or a decade +. The love they give is truly special.
- Lost my first Dobermann at 2 years 10 months old to DCM. I got her the day she turned 2 so I only had her for 10 months and I'm still really devastated about it but my little girl is helping get through it. So yes I will always want Dobermanns
- We lost our last two boys DCM and said never again
- lost DCM and cancer and stomack torsion.... But not imagine other breed...
- Yes I've lost a Doberman to DCM. Will always have a Doberman in my house.
- I have had 5 Dobermanns who all died of different reasons, one of DCM at 7,5 years old. Wasn't worse to loose one in DCM than the others. Always a heart break . Now I have 4 Dobis from 1 year to 7,5 years old , all healthy and DCM scanned so far . I 'am a breeder and do my very best to breed to provoke DCM but as it is so spread in the breed I will not always succeed. But I will try and hopefully we'll get a better chance to win over DCM if we work and breed in the long term of DCM scanned dogs.
- I will not support a breed with fewer as 50:50 chance that the dog will get old
If a dobermann than from animal shelter!
I look everyday at puppy anouncements and i can cry because of nearly every of one!
- Yep until I'm too old to handle them we will have a dobie period.
- Yes, lost my last boy to dcm at 4 yrs & 8 mths in 2007 and the boy I have now is 9 yrs, the way I look at it I'm giving them a good home for maybe the short time they are with us and just couldn't see myself with another breed plus there isn't another breed like them
- I lost my first dobermann when she was 2 yo to DCM. I got my second dobermann from a completely different bloodline, with both parents over 9 yo and grandparents that lived at least up to 10/11. He turned out to have wobbler and subaortic stenosis (heart problem) at 1 yo. His brother died of DCM soon after his second birthday. I love dobermanns I thought I found my forever breed and I intended to always have them. But the pain is just too much. Getting up every day hoping they did not die in their sleep or hoping they won't drop dead during a walk is just too much. I won't be getting another dobermann. As long as there are people who think it's okay to have a dog that will very very likely die of DCM just because you love the breed too much, the current problem will not change because breeders will just keep doing what they are doing now, causing pain to dogs and families.
- Lost my dobe with dcm at 3 .5 years old to young lost my other dobe 6 with liver another biggest killer with dobes no I won't b having another one again even vet said they r high risk x I still have one dobe I keep my fingers crossed with him can't keep going through this heartache
- I lost my girl at age 3.5 and it completely broke me and still does, losing her ripped my heart and soul out, I have a Rhodesian ridgeback of 5 months and my little Heinz 57 rescue from Spain now, while it hurts like hell to not have a dobe in my life I can't go through the fear of having one and them having DCM so no I will probably never have another unless things change drastically
- Yes, just lost my boy to DCM on 20 January, had to have him pts because of the distress he was in. New dobie pup arriving 25/3/17. Can't be without one. My boy was 11.5 yrs
- I've had Dobermanns for over 20 years and now is my last one, a big rescue boy of 9yrs. It will be very strange to be without a Dobermann after him. I've Always had 4 to 5 dogs and I have standard poodles now. I Always loved this breed very much and after the death of several Dobermanns due to DCM I switched. And I love them so much!! My Dobes died at the age of 2 years, at 4 years, and already several sisters and brothers of my last girl that died also of DCM have deceased too. I can't have one again. It broke my heart to see them die so young and due to such an terrible genetic disease. I hope in the future I'll ever have a brown boy again in my life, like my beloved Dracul. He lived till the age of 13.5 years and was as healthy as could be. But I can't go through this again so no Dobermanns in my life no more...
- I have lost 6 of my precious Dobermanns to this evil disease. I have had my heart broken time after time but losing my beautiful soulmate Raven who I lost just over 2 years ago has destroyed me , I am still suicidal over her loss . My heart is broken beyond any hope of repair and my soul is shattered , I'll never ever get over losing her , I am lost and broken and if I'm honest just want to go wherever she is to be with her . She had brain damage from birth and was special beyond words and so vulnerable , she shouldn't be without her Muma , it's not right , we should never have been separated. I hate this disease , I hate those 3 letters , I live in absolute terror of them every day. However even though I have been heartbroken and crucified by the loss of my precious kids because of this disease I cannot have any other breed . I have tried to have a golden retriever and a Rottweiler and I had to return both to the breeders as it felt so wrong . If you've had a Doberman you'll know there's no other breed than can compare or even come close , therefore I have to live with the utter heartache and pain of my loss and pray that this disease doesn't take my beloved kids from me. It's all I can do - hope and pray . The way I have to see it is i'd rather have 5 years with the love of a Dobermann than 10 years with another breed . " The light that burns twice as bright burns half as long " Something needs to be done about this disease, what is being done , what is needed to help find a cure ? Money I suppose? Maybe every Dobermann owner can donate so that more research can be done . I pray everyday for a cure . So many beautiful Dobermanns losing their lives and each one leaving an owner behind broken-hearted
- I have 3.girls and they lives 10.5;11;11.5.. 4. girl suddenly gone in one hour, in age of 7.year!!I was broken,but after two days I bought another girl pupy..I think I can't live without doby girl
- I've had Dobermans since 2004. I don't think I could live without at least one. I've have several other breeds & Dobes are extra special & unique.
- Hubby and I are on our 4th Dobe since 1978. First Dobe had sudden death at 4.5 years old; second was 14 (cancer); third was 11.5 (cancer); and Baron is now almost 10.5 and was diagnosed with DCM at 4.5. Has been on meds since that time and is doing well. Honestly, would not have any other breed and will absolutely get another one.
- Yes, I will. I am trying to hedge my bets for the next one in a few years' time by going to a breeder that does all the tests I want and breeds for health
- I will always have a Dobe the pleasure they give me throughout their lives always surpasses the grief when they go - at the time of losing them it is a physical pain - such heartache but in time the memories they leave will always bring a smile - I lost a male just over two in the early nineties- I had a post-mortem done and it turned out he had Addisons Disease and although I had attended the vet regularly as I felt he was not right his symptoms where so vague it was missed - had I lost him now I know the torches and pitchforks would be out - fingers pointing and rumours of DCM - unfortunately there are no guarantees with living breathing creatures including humans - most good breeders are trying their utmost to minimise this condition - but going back to the original question - always - my belongs to my chosen breed and always will
- I will always have a Doberman no matter what
- I love the Dobermann breed and can not see myself with another breed. The love they give is unmatched which makes it even harder when they pass. I have lost them to sudden death, injury, cancer, old age, everywhere from a year old to fourteen years old. I lost one 7 mos. ago and still cry every single day from missing him...but I would do it again, and will do it again and again...
- No I won't have another Dobermann as long as the breed is in the state that it is. I have lost 3 to DCM and my heart is well and truly broken. It's nearly 4 years since I lost my last Dobe and it's as painful as if it were yesterday.
- It is painful to lose them. But will always have at least 2 Dobes
- You cannot deny yourself ownership of the best dogs in world because of this disease. Whether you have them for years or just a day. Know that they gave you joy however long they're here for and thank god that there are always another to give you more happiness because at one point not so long ago it was touch and go whether this breed would survive. I have a year old one and if he goes I'd be devasted but it wouldn't stop me getting another. It wouldn't be a replacement just another friend
- I try to tell myself that it means I will get to own more. I will always own dobermans have owned them for over half my life now and until today have never had one live past age 9. (Its my current boys 9th birthday today)
- I'm 48 and have had a doberman in my life since the age of 10 period I currently have 3. I cannot imagine my life without a doberman however I did lose one at the age of one years old and she was diagnosed at six months old. I know that it can be hard to avoid DCM but I cannot stress enough on doing your research when looking for a breeder period Health testing and proof of longevity in the lines is a non-negotiable. Please do not support backyard breeders or unethical breeding Kennels. I believe part of the reason this disease has gotten so out of control is from these greedy establishments mass-producing these dogs. I also have two adopted girls. I never had adopted before but after the death of my little baby I decided to adopt.
26 March 2017 Question: "I have one question. This is not my first puppy, and I know I got a Velcro dog. But Bentley cries a lot in his crate if you leave him.
As soon as he came home, my two main priorities over the weekend were crate training and housetraining (of course). Housetraining has gone very smoothly, I'm honestly surprised, and he loves his crate and will go in willingly to play or sleep, so that worked too. But if he isn't sleeping ...or about to fall asleep, he screams in the crate. Especially at night.:( I have tried to close the door, open, and treat. Close the door, step away, and treat. And overnight I tried to just ignore it. It didn't stop so I covered the crate with a blanket, moved it closer to the bed, put my hand in. Nothing. And he was SCREAMING.
I also can't step 5ft away from him without him crying, even if my mom is still present. Although, I went upstairs and left him for ~30 seconds today and he whined a bit but did pretty good. I'm worried because my mom is the one who is going to be letting him out and watching him while I'm at work starting tomorrow and he is a crier. I'm also worried about separation anxiety. Is this normal for 8 weeks, does it just go away with time? Is it too soon to say it's a larger issues, and any similar experiences with your puppies?"
Answers: - I brought my baby home at eight weeksЕ She's currently 19 weeks old. She screamed bloody murder in her crate until she was about 15 weeks old. I had to warn my neighbors in case they heard the screams that I was crate training a puppy - not murdering her. Stick it out, it will get betterЕ I have crate trained every dog I've owed but my Doberman has been the hardest.
- I took a lil blanket and rub it on me so my scent would be on it for mine to sleep with.
- I have always used a manual clock for the ticking noise of another heartbeat and a hot water bottle. NOT a heating pad. He has just left his mom and siblings. This is his first experience alone in his world.
- It can depend on the dog too. I have 2 dobermans from the same parents and one is fine in the crate while the other screams and cries the entire time she's in there. She also has separation anxiety.
- We made the unfortunate mistake of giving in to Reno crying in his crate by letting him out into our bed!! End of story.
- You have to leave him ALONE! it can take up to 3 hours for them to stop crying... and once they stop if they start in the middle of the night usually means they need to go potty... you have to leave them alone. its hard I know both to hear them and then sleep also but you have to ignore it!
- I also leave a radio on.
- I bought two crates and nite time was the bedroom crate. I also would on occasion throw a shoe at the crate and say shut up.
- We have had many dogs over the years!!!! The dobie was the worst at crate training......He cryed......we caved.....into our bed he came....he is a year and a half now.......we crate him when we aren't here.
- be persistent, they are smart dogs and know exactly what they are doing by crying for you, just make sure he doesn't need to pee/poo, max time at that age is 2-3 hours in the crate without some play and personal time.
- Try putting an old fashioned wind up alarm clock in the crate. Sometimes the ticking will calm them enough so they'll sleep. Make sure
you wear him out before putting him into the crate for the night. You can also put some type of a large stuffed animal for him to cuddle with. Remember he's only 8
weeks old and he had his litter mates to snuggle with. Dogs are pack animals & need to be touching something soothing when they sleep. Your guy is just lonely.
13 March 2017
- All you need to know about Doberman DCM. Interestingly enough, a lot of things said in the article have been discussed by me in this Blog.
www.instituteofcaninebiology.org/blog/an-update... An update on the genetic status of the Doberman Pinscher
By Carol Beuchat PhD The Doberman Pinscher is in serious trouble. About 60% of the breed is afflicted with dilated cardiomyopathy (DCM), with 13% affected by the time they are
6 years old and more than 40% by the age of 8. The disorder has an autosomal dominant pattern of inheritance, but the causative genes are unknown.
DCM is fatal. The heart fails, sometimes in the absence of any symptoms of a problem, and the dog simply drops dead - in the middle of a game of fetch, during a run on an agility course, or while the family is away during the day at work and school. Most dogs die in their prime and even younger.
(In the first graph below, the data are divided into age cohorts and no animal appears in more than one age group.)
How long do they live?
Where did this horrible problem come from?
We have good data about the history of DCM in the breed. In 1990, the incidence was already quite high, with more than 25% of dogs affected. Since then,
DCM has increased essentially linearly by about 1.5% per year. At this rate, by 2040, 100% of the Doberman breed will be afflicted with DCM.
Clearly, the efforts made by breeders over the last three decades to decrease the incidence DCM have had no effect at all on the prevalence of the disorder. Not even a little.
I wrote last summer about the tragedy of watching this noble breed go extinct before our very eyes (see Are We Watching the Extinction of a Breed?).
What are we doing to deal with this problem? Breeders are routinely monitoring their dogs for the electrical abnormalities that are signs of DCM. They are trying to select from lines that appear to be less afflicted with the problem.
However, the question nobody seems to be asking is whether it is even possible to rid the breed of this problem through selective breeding. Can better monitoring and ever more selective breeding reduce the incidence of this horrible problem in Dobermans? Is there enough genetic diversity in the breed to "breed away" from DCM?
What is the genetic status of the Doberman? In my earlier post, I presented a summary of data for genetic diversity in various dog breeds, including the Doberman. There are now additional data that give us a broader picture of the genetic status of the Doberman.
First, this graph is the up-to-date summary of the genetic diversity in Dobermans that have been examined by MyDogDNA. The color scale at the bottom indicates the ranges of high and low diversity. The data include dogs from the US, Austria, Russia, the United Kingdom, Finland, Australia, and Ukraine. The median heterozygosity for this group is 26.6% (blue), which is less than the median for other pinscher and schnauzer-type breeds (34.2%; green) and for all dogs (34.6%; orange).
Below I have graphed the data for genetic diversity of all dog breeds analyzed by MyDogDNA on their website. In the top panel, the Doberman, with a median heterozygosity
of 26.6%, is indicated by the arrow. Below that is a graph that includes all of the breeds they have measured. (These graphs are taken from my earlier post.) For reference, the green line is the average heterozygosity for mixed breed dogs (43%), and the red line is the median heterozygosity for all dogs in the MyDogDNA database. Higher heterozygosity is better; if a dog was heterozygous at all loci the value would be 50% using this method.
We now have new data from a separate study (Dreger et al 2017) on a different cohort of dogs (see Inbreeding of Purebred Dogs Determined from DNA). They used a different method for estimating the proportion of the genome that is homozygous called "runs of homozygosity" (ROH). This method identifies blocks of consecutive homozygous loci, then adds the total length of these blocks and divides by the total length of chromosomes covered by markers to produce the inbreeding coefficient. Lower values of inbreeding are better.
The hand thing about this estimate of inbreeding is that the value indicates two things: 1) the probability that an animal will inherit two copies of the same allele from an ancestor (i.e., homozygous for that allele), and 2) the fraction of all loci that are homozygous.
From this study, the average inbreeding coefficient of the Doberman is 43% (red arrow on the enlarged graph on the left, blue on the graph for all breeds on the left). This means that
on average, nearly half the genome of a dog is homozogyous, with two copies of the same allele;
the risk of any particular locus being homozygous for the same allele - whether good or bad - is 43%;
on average, 43% of the genomes of any two dogs are the same.
In addition to the data on inbreeding and heterozygosity of the whole genome in Dobermans, we now also have information specifically about the genes of the immune system.
The immune system protects an animal from all manner of outside invaders, from bacteria and viruses to fungi and parasites. It must be able to recognize a bewildering diversity of pathogens as foreign, then marshall the specific cellular defense mechanisms necessary to destroy them. At the same time, it must be able to distinguish "self" from "non-self"; failure to do this is the cause of autoimmune disorders, in which the immune system attacks one of the body's own tissues.
The genes for the immune system in the dog are called the "dog leukocyte antigens" (DLA). They tend to be inherited as blocks of genes called haplotypes. There are two types of DLA haplotypes called DLA Class I and DLA Class II. Like single alleles, an animal can inherit two copies of the same haplotype or they can be different (i.e., homozygous or heterozygous).
In most animals, the genes of the immune system are the most diverse in the entire genome, and in wild animals there is strong selection to keep them that way. In purebred dogs, however, inbreeding, strong selection, bottlenecks, and genetic drift have reduced the genetic diversity across the genome, including the Class I and Class II DLA.
Take for example these data for DLA diversity from UC Davis in nine breeds of dogs (see Inbreeding and the Immune System: Unintended Consequences). The graph shows the number of haplotypes found in a survey of each breed, separated into Class I and Class II DLA.
You can see that the breed with the highest number of haplotypes, the Standard Poodle, has about 45 Class I haplotypes and 28 of Class II. The Poodle suffers from many autoimmune disorders, including Addison's disease, sebaceous adenitis, immune mediated hemolytic anemia, immune mediated thrombocytopenia, chronic hepatitis, temporalmandibular myositis, Evan's syndrome, immune pancytopenia, and chronic thyroiditis (Pedersen et al 2015). Even as it has the highest DLA diversity of the particular breeds in this study, it suffers from a compromised immune system as a consequence of strong selective breeding and genetic bottlenecks (Pedersen et al 2015).
Unfortunately, among the other breeds that were tested, the Doberman fared the worst, with less than 10 DLA haplotypes for either Class I and Class II. Even if DCM could be eliminated from the breed, the Doberman would still suffer from issues realated to the poor health of the immune system.
This is the assessment of Dr Niels Pedersen, who is conducting a study of genetic diversity in Dobermans at UC Davis.
1) "This study of 71 Doberman establishes a desperate need for breeders to search the world for pockets of genetic diversity that does not exist in the present population, just as was done by Standard Poodle and Italian Greyhound breeders. Eastern Europe and more isolated areas of Western Europe would be ideal places to search for such diversity. Genetic introgressions with similar dogs may be required, but such outcrossing must be based on sound genetic knowledge and careful monitoring of new diversity to see that it is not lost by backcrossing or contained to only a fraction of the breed."
2) "In the case of diseases such as DCM, the genetic traits responsible for the disease may already be fixed in certain varieties of the breed, reminiscent of hyperuricosuria in the Dalmatian. A lack of genetic diversity greatly limits the ability to find reasonably unrelated mates, but when this lack is combined with the need to select against a large number of heritable traits, the ability to identify genetically suitable mates becomes even more difficult."
The bottom line
The Doberman has the lowest diversity in the DLA genes of the immune system of any of the breeds studied to date by Pedersen's lab at UC Davis. This, together with the high level of inbreeding documented from multiple studes and the overall relatedness of the dogs in the population, leaves breeders with little ability to circumvent the multiple genetic diseases in the breed. Furthermore, some deleterious genes could be fixed in the breed - that is, the normal, non-mutated version of the gene is no longer present in the gene pool and therefore are not available for selection.
It is highly unlikely that the desperate genetic situation of the Doberman can be improved by selective breeding within the closed gene pool of the breed. It should be made very clear to breeders that they will not restore health to this breed by selecting against health problems. Furthermore, trying to select less related parents in an effort to improve diversity in the offspring is a bit like pushing your peas around on your plate; you might look like you're accomplishing something, but with little effect.
The only hope for this breed is the initiation of a sound, comprehensive cross-breeding program, under the guidance of population geneticists, that will introduce new genetic diversity into the breed. The longer it takes to begin genetic rescue, the more difficult it will be and the less likely it is to be successful.
A final word
We have a moral obligation to restore the noble Doberman breed back to health, and this effort needs to begin immediately.
Pedersen NC, L Brucker, NG Tessier, H Liu, M Cecilia, T Penedo, S Hughes, A Oberbauer, & B Sacks. The effect of genetic bottlenecks and inbreeding on the incidence of two major autoimmune diseases in Standard Poodles, sebaceous adenitis and Addison's disease. Canine Genetics and Epidemiology 2:13. DOI 10.1186/s40575-015-0026-5.
9 March 2017
- Thumbs up to this poster:
"One thing that I see frequently that both amazes and frustrates me is people's inability/unwillingness to admit when their dog is overweight. Imagine how you would feel and the potential health risks of carrying 10, 20, even 30% extra weight, and yet I see it on here every day. I see people who mention their dogs weight when describing them(i.e...I have a 96lb male), or are so proud of how big their dog is they list weight with decimals(i.e..my dog is 104.2 lbs). Why be so proud of how much they weigh?! Why get so defensive when people try to tell you that your dog is overweight? Why not be willing to learn and correct? You can look at Show dogs any day of the week to see Dobes in correct weight yet I've heard people say those dogs don't count. What?! Your dog doesn't have to be a show dog to be in good condition.
Here's a dog that isn't overweight. Notice how you can just barely make out his last ribs. Notice his body isn't solid and smooth, like a tootsie roll, you can see definition in the shoulder. Notice how he doesn't have a rounded butt of fat. Notice how you can see a waist. Some dogs have a more defined tuck than others, but they should have one. This is my 7.5y male.
If your 100lb dog is actually supposed to be 85lbs, is being able to boast that your dog is 100lbs really more important than their health?! I just don't get it."
3 March 2017
- Got this today.
"Hey Canis Maximus,
On behalf of Vetary.com, I want to congratulate you on the Best Doberman Pinscher Breeder Award.
Vetary has analyzed top doberman pinscher breeders and cross referenced positive social mention data with top analytics platforms. Your site was a clear winner with U.S. pet owners over the last 12 months. For context, Vetary awards breeders with best-in-class online buzz, content, visuals, and most importantly, a strong cause and devotion toward their breed of dogs."
That's nice. Just hope this hasn't been sent to a few dozen other Doberman breeders heh heh
27 February 2017
- Last fundraiser update and donation. Thank you all who participated!
22 February 2017
- A couple weeks ago there was a heated discussion on Facebook regarding one dog.
It started by the dog's owner posting a rather biased and angry comment about this dog dying of DCM at the age of 9 and accusing the dog's breeder of selling her into a "puppymill" Doberman kennel in FL where she was bred and bred, and then dumped after her use came to an end. Familiar story, we've all heard this before.
The breeder counter-argued by stating that the dog was originally sold to CA and then the first owners were mislead and resold her to a commercial breeding facility. Her last years she spent with a different person who, I guess, rescued her.
Anyway, all the details and gossiping and slandering and guilt shaming are not really important.
What's important is that this is exactly the situation I avoid but not selling my dogs for breeding, or with breeding rights.
#1. Chances of my dogs ending up in such situations are pretty slim because they come with papers not allowing breeding - limited registrations.
#2. If the dog needs to be resold, it will be resold as a pet because - see above.
#3. I can trace where the dogs end up if something doesn't work out with the original owners because they practically always inform me because their dog means more to them than its reproductive organs (usually fixed by then).
#4. I will not end up in a situation where my name is smeared because someone by means of lying obtained my dog and bred the beep out of it because - see #1.
#5. Dealing with breeders is the worst there is in breeding. Starting in 2010-2011 I stopped doing full registrations because of my negative experience. And you know what? I never regretted it. Maybe I lose business but I know for sure my dogs won't be sold and bred and sold and bred over and over again thus using my
work to support someone else's lifestyle, and I know the situation this very well known breeder ended up in will not happen to me.
14 February 2017
- Our dogs in Florida:
Our dogs in Colorado:
13 February 2017
- Knuckling over/feet bowing in puppies.
Very common issue in large breed puppies. Some examples (although some puppies have it worse):
www.greatdanelady.com/articles/knucking... - more info.
A recent Facebook discussion prompted me to write a post on this because this happens often and owners, as well as vets, aren't always well informed. Based on the Facebook responses, this issue deserves some more discussion (I already had a post on this in my Blog).
Here are the responses you will most likely get:
1. "Go to a vet".
2. "They look to be bowing out. Rickets maybe?"
3. "This is called knuckling over... or some might call it buckling.
It is developmental orthopedic disease. At this age is most likely caused from lack of calcium... but there can be other causes."
4. "Knucking over is not due to a calcium deficiency... it is more likely to be the result of too high of a mineral content in the food, or an improper ratio of some mineral(s) to other(s). I would switch to a lower nutrient adult food, but only until it corrects (which will probably happen quickly)... then, back to a better, high nutrient food than you are using now."
5. "Definitely ask a vet but it looks like poor legs are bowing, my vet said my pup was starting to bow and i had to change her food, a bit more expensive but it has changed everything in her including her skin and coat."
6. "Watch the calcium/phosphorus ratios in kibble. Nature never gets it wrong either - RAW feed your pup. MEAT, MEAT, 10% BONE, 10% ORGAN WITH 5% BEING LIVER and rest 5% being any other organs, then more meat. Remember, meat is the biggest chunk then bone and organ. 80% meat - 10% bone - 10% organ."
7. "Cod liver oil pill once a day for a week will help also."
8. "Don't necessarily think it's serious. My pup did that for a bit. She's normal now."
9. "Mine did that off & on for probably her first 9 months. I asked a few vets a few different times & they said it's from growing & her muscles being used alot. I noticed it being worse after playing outside. I've never seen it since."
10. "My pup had this when he was little - basically it's because his diet was causing him to grow too quickly, but more specifically the bones were growing faster than the tendons which causes the problem.
We switched to a "large breed puppy" food which regulates growth and that really helped with the problem."
11. "Don't ask on Facebook. Take her to a vet."
Our response: Nothing to worry. Will go away in a week or two on its own. This is due to the difference in growth and weight of different body areas at this age. At 3mo the weight of the body, especially if your pup is chunky, is more than the legs can handle. As soon as there is extra growth height-wise, this will go away. No need for vets or extra care. More time in the sun, play time and puppy multi vitamins. Raw eggs will be good too. One of our puppy's vet suggested amputation scaring the beep out of the owners, all was back to normal in days.
2 February 2017
- This is how valuable lines are built - only with a focus on the future. When you are looking at a puppy and you know what bloodlines you want to cross it with and what you are going to get out of it. Champions come out of champions. I can't stress enough that to get a good dog you need to get it out of good parents. And good parents is not how sweet and loving they are or how good they are as house dogs, there is much more to what makes a dog suitable AND worthy of breeding.
Father and sons:
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CH.Pathos delle Querce Nere
CH.Sant Kreal Zeus\r\n\r\n
1 February 2017
- We've been alerted on several occasions that our dogs' photos are used to scam people out of money, often times on craigslist. Don't be fooled.
Here is one of the crooks selling our 7-yo Shaherezada as a 2.5 yo Roxy, and a 4-mo puppy from half a decade ago as a 1.5yo Rusa. Outrageous!
30 January 2017
29 January 2016
- Our Fundraiser update 2.
Thank you for all your feedback. Second batch of photos from Canis Maximus buyers. Plus another donation to the rescue that is desperately trying to survive and feed their animals.
This will cover a lot of medication or pay for a couple spays/surgeries....
Thank you all.
28 January 2017
- Some more info on head bobbing in Dobermans from their owners.
"Here is a good video of head bobbing. I got my male when he was 10 months old and he had the first one shortly thereafter.
youtube.com/watch?v=DtPHKWADEQY He was fed immediately after shooting this video. Feeding stops the bobbing. He still has an occasional episode. He is 8 years old now."
"My male started with head bobbing when he was a year old. Did research on it and someone said they had used B50 so I tried it. It worked. He hasn't had any since and he's seven now. Lots about it on Utube too."
22 January 2016
- How much is the puppy? I came across an interesting discussion on Facebook. Below are pictures with prices - from the owners.
One more thing. What you see might be better than what it really is.
Example: cookbook recipes. They are always accompanied by beautiful appetite enticing pictures. But
in reality the food might be disgusting or not palatable. Like ginger orange beef. Looks good but I would never eat sweet beef.
Same with the pictures. A good ear crop, like recipe photos, will enhance the looks of any doberman, but won't change its quality. And of course, there are exceptions to any rule.
Here we go (prices under the pictures):
1. $0-$500 - gift, give-up, or rescue dogs.
2. ~$300-1400 - back-yard bred dogs (some owners are fully aware where they got their dog, and for some it was an eye opening experience about quality breeding)
3. ~$1500-$3000up - show/work bred dogs. While most Dobermans are beautiful by nature, when you got to category 1 (rescue and give-ups) and then to category 3 (show dogs) - anyone will see the difference in type and quality of breeding.
Most of these pictures are head-shots, and most of them look quite cute and you won't think there is anything bad, the dog looks like a normal doberman, but behind any head there is a body, and behind all this, there is a pedigree, and the dog's parents, and on top of that, there are ethical requirements, such as titling, dog selection, and health testing.
And then there are questionable cases. For a regular person, the dogs look good. For a show person, there are a number of conformation flaws making these dogs not desirable breeding candidates. But if we are not considering these dogs for breeding, they are very nice pet quality dogs. Usually this happens when the breeder gets his/her hands on some show stock, or dogs that weren't selected for the show rings but are still quite close to that in quality. In this case, what comes out of such breeding can hardly be attributed to the accomplishments of the breeder, as the original stock came from some one else's show breeding program. Another thing, not all show litters produce all show potentials, pet quality pups will be priced lower but are a better option than back-yard bred pups for the same price. As I have pointed out before, back-yard - is commercial. Meaning, you are not supporting someone's breeding program, which is usually a lifetime investment in the development of the breed, but rather someone's lifestyle and living expenses which has little to do with the improvement of the breed.
And then there are rip-off cases:
Poorly bred based on poor conformation
Solid black is a conformation flaw yet this very cute mutant puppy is sold at a show dog price:
Conclusion: know what you are buying. You get what you pay for.
17 January 2016
- The development of the breed.
Quality is quality. And you can see this in the dogs bred 50 years ago even if they look different from the modern type Dobermans.
Here is 1959 Gobi. Phenomenally strong, deep with lots of substance.
And here is 1970 Lord. Very nice specimen compared to nowadays dogs. Strong yet elegant.
Here are some more show dogs of the 70's.
As you see, quality is quality. That's why it's important to support breeders who breed quality. You cannot adhere to the breed standard and systematically breed quality without having breed specialists (judges) evaluate your work (attend dog shows).
How has the Doberman changed?
Here are the dogs of the 90's:
Compare to the 2010's:
It's clear that the overall look has become more smooth and polished, lines more appealing. Backs are stronger. Biggest changes are in:
- croups (=butts), better structured, better tail sets
- angulations, especially rear.
- chests, deeper and wider, with more pronounced front chests
- heads, more balanced, with significantly stronger underjaws
And again, we see improvement and changes thanks to the breeders dedicated to the postive development of the breed. Because evolution is always postive development.
Now lets take those who breed without any care for the improvement, conformation, temperament and health (you will hear various excuses, like we don't show, we don't
need to prove the quality of our dogs, shows are for snobs, blah-blah, all our dogs are healthy, we've never had xxx or yyy in our dogs, our dogs have great temperaments,
they are sweet and friendly and blah-blah). Do you think any of them could produce any of the above pictured dogs? No! But what they do is they use some one else's work
to their own benefit.
14 January 2017
- The true damage caused by Animal Rights radicals:
Ringling Bros to end in May! No more circus.
They pushed to stop the use of elephants, now the circus is closing down after 150 years. As with everything there are two sides to every story, theirs is just missing common sense and logic. They got to ban orcas at Seaworld, is Seaworld the next one out? And then it will be you, regular animal owners. Do you want to be told you are not good enough to own an animal? shouldn't eat what you eat? shouldn't crop/dock? Should spay/neuter as soon as possible? Do you want your choice of action and your decision making taken away from you by some uneducated family-less loser because that's what most of them are. But by believing all their "stories' you legitimize their actions. So, question them, always, demand proof, always, and fight for your choice to live your life and love your animals the way YOU want.
05 January 2017
- Have watched a great video on DCM - conference by leading Russian cardiologist Kamolov:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEfD0uEc5F4... It answered a few important questions.
1. Different breeds - same disease but different mutations.
2. All large breeds affected, and wolfhounds, spaniels, labs, mastiffs.
3. Up to 55% affected Dobermans.
4. Starting age - 6mo as the youngest but it's very rare. 10y - is also rare because its an inherited disease so most likely it's a secondary disease at this age, not genetically linked.
5. Genetically linked DCM hits before 9, very small chance after that. DCM as a secondary disease can be caused by viruses and infections.
6. Most common symptoms: shortness of breath, loss of appetite.
7. Blood test can show DCM as well: Troponin I - above 0.11.
31 December 2016
- Rottweiler study links ovaries with exceptional longevity.
New research on the biology of aging in dogs suggests a link between shortened life expectancy and ovary removal (spay).
The study, published in the December 2009 issue of the journal Aging Cell, found that Rottweilers that were spayed after they were 6 years old were 4.6 times as likely to reach 13 years of age as were Rottweilers that were spayed at a younger age.
The finding is important because the average life expectancy of Rottweiler dogs is 9.4 years, observed research team leader Dr. David J. Waters. "Our results support the notion that how long females keep their ovaries influences how long they live," he said.
Researchers found that female Rottweilers have a distinct survival advantage over malesЧa trend also documented in humans. That advantage appears to be determined by whether the female dog is sexually intact, however. "Taking away ovaries during the first four years of life completely erased the female survival advantage," Dr. Waters said.
Rottweiler study links ovaries with exceptional longevity
30 December 2016
- Delighted to see our Delux lives - through his offspring.
30 December 2016
- A new study on pet food found that dogs consuming a canned food lined with BPA Ц for just two weeks Ц absorbed the hormone
altering drug into their system at alarming levels. One of the two foods tested, lied to the researchers and to
A recently published pet food BPA study from multiple researchers at the University of Missouri found BPA Ц a commonly used chemical in the plastic lining of canned foods
(human and pet) Ц in the blood and fecal samples of dogs after consuming one of two canned pet foods for only two weeks. УTwo-week feeding of either canned dog
food brand increased BPA levels in dogs.Ф
BPA is an Уendocrine disruptor chemicalФ. From the National Institute of Environmental Health Sciences, an Сendocrine disruptor chemicalТ is: УEndocrine
disruptors are chemicals that may interfere with the bodyТs endocrine system and produce adverse developmental, reproductive, neurological, and immune effects.Ф
29 December 2016
- Why breeders cannot solve the DCM problem:
Current DCM tests are diagnostic (holter, echo) and breeders need DCM tests that are preventable. Diagnostic tests are used to identify the presence
of the disease at the time of testing. Preventable tests identify the presence of the diease in general. Preventable tests are mostly DNA tests.
Current available tests do not prevent/identify all the DCM mutations and are still quite new.
27 December 2016
- Healthy breeding and genetic diversity.
Here is an example of how an ideal genetically diverse pedigree should look like in the first few generations. 30 dogs, all different:
And then I stumbled upon a new litter born in a well-known kennel, out of an IDC-champion, a gorgeous dog. The amount of close relation between the paternal and maternal side was shocking. Basically, it was a variety of the same dogs just mixed together in various combinations making the paternal side almost identical to the maternal side. And what kind of health can we hope for if the number of relatives went from the ideal 30 to just meager 17!
This is what you get when you have not enough knowledge of what you are doing.
25 December 2016
- Our fundraiser update. First pics and first donation (which will cover a lot of medication or a couple spays).
Thank you all for the feedback.
23 December 2016
- A little belated but important nonetheless.
The largest Doberman show took place this past fall. And here are the winners, dogs that will dictate breeding preferences for a few years.
And again, as I described in one of my previous posts, the lack of genetic diversity is troubling. Even though dogs are gorgeous (most of them).
Eutay del Nasi: Fedor - T-litter - A-litter -Gino - Pimms - more T.
POR Luchezhar: Punsh - A - Fedor - T - Pimms.
Tijara del Nasi: Gino - Nitro - A - T.
Giulia del Borboni: Urbano - Fedor - T - Nitro - Pathos.
Although the dogs are quite stunning, dogs are all so interrelated, that I always have to ask myself: who to breed to?
For example, Luchezar: heavily inbred on brothers Pimms-Punsh, Fedor, A- and T-litters. So, what can such a pedigree offer to the genetics of the breed?
21 December 2016
- Is temperament affected by spaying/neutering? Does neutering reduce aggression in dogs?
Not so per this study. saveourdogs.net....
Some very interesting info here.
20 December 2016
15 December 2016
- Dear Canis Maximus Buyers and Owners,
In the spirit of Christmas let's help those less fortunate. Since I'm a Russian and I know how homeless dogs are treated over there, let's have a fundraising contest to help some of them, where they live does not matter.
Send a photo of your Canis Maximus pup in a X-mas costume (xmas-y bow or hat is OK) by 7 January (Russian/Orthodox Christmas) and for each photo $10 will be sent to the shelter ran by a woman who can't stop amazing me by all her devotion, dedication and sacrifice to save the most unfortunate. The amount of dog abuse she sees should not exist in this world.
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22 November 2016
- Our trip to the airport for socialization.
10 November 2016
- Scary statistics 2016:
Life expectancy - 8.1y.
Cancer - 8.3y.
DCM - 6.5y.
If you look at the charts 1970-2016, not much has changed since 1970. Which means all the health testing available and done has had little effect on the overall breed health. I think that, while cancer testing is out of our reach, once the researchers crack all the DCM mutations, we'll be able to improve life expectancy.
Statistics is a scary thing, it's cold and it's true. Your dog can live to 13. And the other - to just 3. Which will make it average 8.
19 October 2016
- Breeding a champion is every normal breeder's dream. It can be a conformation champion or a working champion. Bottom line, it's what drives your breeding program. Breeding a litter with several champions is a great achievement, let alone if this litter becomes a crucial part in the breed's history and development.
I've already mentioned A-litter, T-litter, but what stands behind the letters? Doberman pros know, but for the others, here it is:
The A-litter. The litter was born in the del Citone kennel and forever influenced the breed. It was a combination of Norden Stamm, Citone and Roveline lines.
All 3 dogs were spectacular, very successful at shows, and left great offsprings. Unfortunately, Alfa and Astor died of DCM, Arielle supposedly bloated at 5.
And with this beauty along with the deadly cardio disease spread far and wide.
The G-litter. Also, extremely important litter for the development of the breed was this litter. Born at the same kennel del Citone. It was a cross between brother and sister, Astor and Arielle. And as a result we got a stunning, super successful produce, but with limited genetic diversity, Gino Gomez. His offpsrings were numerous, and of better quality. Gino had a great temperament which allowed him to pass Koerung, and great looks which allowed him to win major show titles.
What remains a mistery is when he died. He left numerous progeny, his dad died of DCM, many of Gino's pups eventually died of it too. On some sites I've seen people say Gino was retired but alive at 10..12... We will never know for sure.
The T-litter. Born in Russia. Had a tremendous impact on the breed too.
Back then I met with the breeder, and I had an opportunity to get one of the pups, but I was young, a novice in the breed, didn't know what was worth buying, didn't have a stable income to afford such a dog. The litter was a gem! Pactically all pups ended up with successful show and working careers. So many champions in just one litter is hard to come along.
Dad was Italian, mom German, pups born in Russia.
All but one died well before 10. Tigr had a great impact on the breed although he died suddenly very early. Tamerlan had a very successful breeding career. He was a massive male, and he was an improver. Trefovaya dama was the longest lived and she had successful progeny in Russia. Taissya was a successful brood bitch in a Latvian kennel. Offsprings of these dogs are numerous.
Both parents of this litter died young, so did most of the litter. Many pups, for example, sired by Tigr died suddenly.
As you see, it's of vital importance to know what goes in the bloodline. While all these dogs shaped up the modern Doberman, which is gorgeous, they also limited the gene pool by how much they were bred. It is hard to find a pedigree without all these dogs in it.
15 October 2016 - WhatТs the Point in Showing? Posted By Sheila Atter Why do we show dogs? Yes I know the arguments Ц that it is a means of ensuring that standards are maintained; that breeders have an opportunity to compare the results of their breeding program with that of others; that the progeny of a particular stud dog can be evaluatedЕ. But let us be honest. How many of us enter a show with any of these worthy aims in mind?
Realistically, we show our dogs because we enjoy the competition, or because we enjoy meeting with friends Ц and if we come home with a prize card that is a bonus. We may want to exhibit our dogs because we are proud of them, and like to show them off to a wider audience. In fact, dog showing is all about us Ц the dogs are merely the tools with which we achieve our aims. It could be argued that those very worthy objectives that could once only really be achieved by meeting up at a dog show can easily be fulfilled in other ways in todayТs modern world. The ready availability of photographs and pedigrees on the internet means that anyone can have a pretty good idea of the direction in which a particular breeder is going. Photographs can lie but they do give an indication of whether it is worth making further enquiries Ц and with the ready availability of online translation programmes, it isnТt even necessary to speak the same language.
False claims If we try to promote the idea that dog shows are the only means of ensuring that breeders produce stock that conforms to the breed Standard, then we do have to be perhaps a little careful in our claims. In theory that is the case. In practise, as we have seen all too often recently, the show ring can lead to unnecessary and unhealthy exaggerations, which once accepted can be very difficult to eradicate.
No, the truth is that we show our dogs for our own satisfaction. While admitting that there are many dogs that enjoy the experience greatly and most of the big winners know exactly when to turn on a performance and obviously look forward to their moment in the spotlight the simple truth is that if they didnТt go to shows it wouldnТt worry them at all. Yes, most of us have dogs that react with obvious pleasure to the sight of the show bag; we have oldies that sulk when they see the youngsters being prepared for a day out and realise that they will be left behind. But be honest and admit that if preparations werenТt being made for a show, the dogs wouldnТt be pining for their missed opportunities. In truth, dog shows are run for the benefit of owners, not for dogs and indeed some find the environment quite stressful.
ItТs not all negative. There is great pleasure to be had in watching any beautiful dog, conditioned, groomed and handled to perfection gaiting round the ring Ц and even more pleasure gained from being part of that team. Showing does bring many benefits to both owner and dog. It forges a bond between them, the most successful show dogs being very much part of a team with their handler. Showing encourages owners to keep their dogs in tip-top condition, fit not flabby, well-groomed and exercised. But is that enough? Do we really consider the welfare of our dogs as much as we should?
IТm sure you are horrified by that question. Of course we do! We spend vast sums of money on providing safe, comfortable travelling conditions so that they will reach the show in a stress-free state of mind. Then what do we do? All too often show dogs are allowed a few moments to relieve themselves after the journey, then are put back in a crate or onto a grooming table until their class is called. How many exhibitors even give their dogs a chance to stretch their legs, let alone actually warm up cramped muscles properly before going in the ring?
I do wonder how much of the unsoundness we see at shows is simply down to a lack of appropriate exercise before the class? Go to a horse show and you will see riders warming up their mounts, while athletes take their pre-race preparations very seriously. But what do we do with our show dogs? If they are small dogs of coated breeds we in many cases lift them from the table and carry them into the ring, for fear of unsettling the coat. The dog may only have taken half a dozen steps since leaving home several hours earlier. Is this really showing concern for the welfare of the dog?
Extreme grooming Ah yes, that coatЕ. We all like to see our dogs looking their best, but when does grooming to keep a dog in a clean, healthy condition become totally over the top?
Many owners say that their dog loves to be groomed. Of course he does, he enjoys the one to one attention. But nobody is going to convince me that any dog would choose
to be bathed each day, to run around with his coat put up in crackers or soaked in oil, in preference to galloping along the beach or across a field, rooting around
in woodland or following a scent along a hidden path. The best owners allow their dogs to do these things, and put in the extra amount of effort in order to achieve
show ring success with dogs that are physically and mentally sound. But what about those who donТt? Those whose dogs are condemned to a life of living in crates, in
extreme cases transported from country to country, stuffed into large vans with strange dogs and handlers that they donТt really know. As recent tragedies in both
Europe and the United States have shown, in these cases, the welfare of the dogs comes very low down on the list of priorities for both owners and handlers. Sadly,
it isnТt just conformational exaggerations that are encouraged by the show ring. Thankfully we havenТt, as far as I am aware, gone down the route of such excesses
as artificial topknots on Shih Tzus and Poodles as are seen in some countries, but we only have to look at the СimprovementsТ in presentation compared with even 20
or 30 years ago, to appreciate how important hairdressing has become in the dog show world.
08 October 2016
- One of the major reasons the breed problems prevail is the power fight. It's amazing how power can corrupt people's souls and best intentions, even in the small world of show dogs.
I'm subscribed to a couple American Doberman chat boards, and what is happening in the breed club, DPCA, is pitiful.
Presidential fights, back stabbing, gossiping, shaming, name calling, lying, ohhh, it's sad to watch. Now their Treasurer, apparently, misappropriated the club funds.
But this is not just an American Doberman club problem. As long as there are breeders, breeder hate, jealousy and scheming will keep occuring. Being a Russian, I've read a fair share of that amoung the Russian breeders. The amount of dirt dumped on even the big name breeders was shocking. I think all 'big players' had to live through that, Sant Kreal, Irinland, iz Zoosfery, Gratsiano, etc. It's sad to see when this happens, and this ruins the Doberman world for those who are built differently: without jealousy but with integrity.
Just recently I came across some information regarding the Romanian Doberman club. Apparently it was excluded from the IDC because the members questioned the IDC politics. What a shame that personal interests and intrigues are put above the primary reason why people are in this - the breed itself. Letter by the Romanian Doberman Club:
"Hello Mr Beunekens
I was really surprised of the decision taken in IDC Congress . I'd really want to have the official statement of IDC leadership regarding ...our exclusion from IDC .
Also officially I'd like to know as a member of IDC : where is registered officialy IDC as club, why you as treasurer was given your personal account to which us as
member of the IDC paid the annual membership taxes, what is the official tax number of the registered IDC . Can I have the official point o view of Mr.
Wiblishauser regarding this ? I really hope , that we as former member of IDC , can have IDC official point of view . Csaba Majoros "
08 September 2016
- Test yourself. Would you rather buy a puppy out of
Answer: none available.
First dog - alive at 13, second dog - dead at 8.
Most of you would pick the second dog thus making you part of the breeding dilemma for the breeders: breed what sells or breed what lasts.
07 September 2016
- As I have described before, there are a number of important dog shows in each particular breed. In Dobermans, one of them is the Italian specialty - AIAD. A very large show.
While I was looking at the winners and top 4 placers in each class, I was also checking the pedigrees. Anyone breeding seriously has to keep track of everything going on with the breed: top studs, winning dogs, dog show results, etc.
So, as I was looking at what was behind sometimes unfamiliar names, I kept catching myself thinking: "Not interesting".
Here is my brief analysis. I only took the males exhibited and checked what studs they came out. After a couple dozen, I got tired and bored. It looks like we are breeding the same dog over and over again. And that dog is a Gino-Nitro-Urbano-A-litter-T-litter-Fedor combination with some variations, in just the first 3-5 generations:
Dante delle Querce Nere - 9 sons (Urbano-Nitro-T-litter-A-litter)
Ianez dei Due Intenti - 8 sons (Urbano-Nitro-T-litter-A-litter-Gino)
Toscano del Diamante Nero - 8 sons (Urbano-Nitro-T-litter)
Marte del Fiorsilva - 1son (Gino-Nitro-A-litter-Ianez)
Tahi-Reme Dali - 2 sons (Pathos-Urbano-Nitro-A-litter-T-litter-Gino)
Axel Ais del Bosco delle Piane - 1son (Pathos-Urbano-A-litter-T-litter-Gino)
Pride of Russia Sidor - 3 son (Fedor-T-litter-A-litter-Pimms)
Thiago di Casa Fox - 1 son (Urbano, Nitro, A-litter, T-litter, Fedor)
Thor del Nasi - 1 son (Jork del Nasi - Otrada for del Nasi de Grande Vinko) (Gino-Nitro-A-litter-T-litter)
Brasil v. Hohenzollern - 1 son (Nitro-A-litter)
Oz di Casa Giardino - 8 sons (Fedor-T-litter-Nitro-Gino-Urbano)
Tahi-Reme Legolas - 1 son (Ron-Gino-Nitro-A-litter)
Dragon Donner v. Hohenzollern - 2 sons (Fedor-A-litter-Pimms)
Tahi-Reme Max - 5 sons (Urbano-Nitro-Pimms-A-litter-Gino)
Rellaps Siro - 1 son (Gino-T-litter-A-litter)
Oliver del Cesenate - 1 son (Ron-Fedor-Gino-A-litter-Nitro-T-litter)
Oscar z Padoku - 3 sons (Nitro-A-litter-T-litter)
Gengis Kan del Coinor - 2 sons (Ron-Ianez-Gino-A-litter-Pathos-Nitro-Urbano-A-litter-T-litter)
Sant Kreal Idol - 1 son (Zeus-Urbano-T-litter-A-litter)
Valdo from Lipar Land - 2 sons (Tahi-Reme Max - Dream del Nasi) (Urbano-Pimms-A-litter-Ginoz-T-litter)
Oksamit de Grande Vinko - 2 sons (Nitro-T-litter)
Ilane della Piancarda - 1 son (Nitro-Urbano-T-litter-A-litter)
Domenicus v. Markischen Leo - 1 son (Artur v. Markischen Leo - Fiene Hellfire) (Gino-Nitro-A-litter)
Ideal Capax Infiniti - 1 son (Fedor-T-litter-Pimms-Nitro-Gino)
Ethos Steinhage Grad - 1 son (Pathos-Urbano-A-litter-T-litter-Gino)
Mc Madness Peak Performance - 3 sons (Pathos-Gino-Nitro-Urbano-T-litter-A-litter)
Pride of Russia Taymir - 1 son (Sidor-Fedor-T-litter-Pimms-Gino-A-litter-T-litter)
Pocho di Prisconte - 4 sons (T-litter,-Gino, A-litter)
Pride of Russia Urano - 3 sons (Urbano, Nitro-pimms-T-litter-Fedor-A-litter)
Ulisse del Tibur - 4 sons (Gino-A-litter-Nitro-T-litter)
Ale'Alamos del Citone - 1 son (Pathos-Urbano-Gino;T-litter-A-litter)
Yanez del Bosco delle Piane - 1 son (Gino-Nitro-A-litter-Mc Madness-Fedor)
Da Vinci el Greco Nero - 1 son (Maxim-Gino-A-litter)
Ale'Alamos del Citone - 5 sons (Pathos-Urbano-Gino-A-litter-T-litter)
Maxim di Altobello - 1 (Gino - A-litter)
And here I got tired. Everything is the same. Very few had 2 names. Most had 3+ same names in the first 3-4 generations.
And this is scary.
Around the same time I was working on this, I stumbled upon an article on English Bulldogs. Different breed, but their problem is not too far away from Dobermans if we keep breeding like this.
I am ok with light line-breeding, I am not OK with having same pedigrees with the same dogs in them. I have only checked studs. I haven't even looked at the females. I doubt the situation is much different. And the shocking thing is that these females will be breeding to these males.
Here is the article.
The English Bulldog is one of the most popular dog breeds in the world, but itТs also one of the unhealthiest. An upsetting new analysis now shows that these stocky, wrinkly-faced dogs lack the genetic diversity required to improve the breed, and that their current level of health is as good as itТs ever going to get.
In a new study published in Canine Genetics and Epidemiology, researchers from the University of CaliforniaТs Center for Companion Animal Health have shown that the English bulldogТs highly constrained genetic diversity will make it difficultЧif not impossibleЧfor breeders to create new-and-improved versions of the canine from existing genetic stock. -This startling lack of genetic plasticity is the result of the breedТs small genetic base (which was derived from 68 individuals back in 1835), intensive inbreeding, and breedersТ selection of specificВ and often extreme, physical traits.
-We found that little genetic Уwiggle roomФ still exists in the breed to make additional genetic changes.
-This isnТt good news for a breed thatТs already beset with serious health problems.
-УImproving health through genetic manipulations presumes that enough diversity still exists to improve the breed from within,Ф Pedersen said, Уand if not, to add diversity by [mixing it with] other breeds. We found that little genetic Сwiggle roomТ still exists in the breed to make additional genetic changes.Ф
-Breeders are doing the best they can to manage the little diversity thatТs left, but many bulldogs are still sired from highly inbred parents.
-Eliminating all the problematic mutations wonТt solve the problem because it will only serve to further reduce genetic diversity.
Scary, right? Now let's go back to my analysis of AIAD studs. We aren't too far from the critical situation bulldogs ended up in.
We do have a couple back-up options: working vs show lines usually are bred separately and are quite unrelated. Also, American vs Euro will come in handy.
Everybody is complaining about cardio, but very few talk about genetic diversity. Although, the two issues are different, they are interrelated.
A couple months ago, I stumbled upon a post on Facebook talking about two 6-month old puppies dying of DCM, all bred by the same breeder, same litter, and guess what, same story: We have the best European bloodlines, blah-blah, and we have Altobello, this-bello and that-bello - as if breeding someone else's bloodlines will make your breeding better? safer? healthier?
Well, as sad as it is, it is not the case. And while DCM, like cancer, are currently unpreventable in Dobermans, having your puppies die of DCM at 6 months is shameful for any breeder, no matter how much health testing you've done.
That's why I always track down who lives, how long, who dies and when (of course, if that's reported), who breeds and what, what comes out of that.
I used to be the same many years ago: oh, I have this champion and that champion in my lines. Now, I am actually looking for no-name dogs or not well-known kennels. I don't care if my next stud is from this-bello or that-bello, I want diversity.
05 September 2016
- Thought 3.
Everything we do here with the dogs is done FOR THE DOGS.
10 August 2016
- Amazing how this:
9 August 2016
- How they show here, in the US:
And how they show over there in Europe:
8 August 2016
- How our own animals are used against us and how we are punished for owning them. Since I have lived through all of this myself, I can relate to this issue personally:
Opinion: "I witnessed something that disturbed me very much and to this date I am trying to find a way to defend against it.
One morning, a landlord who wanted to make a case against an old couple for owning pet cats (5) was harassing them by photographing their apartment. Since it was clean, the lady asked 'what are you photographing ? The guy said 'ODORS'.
Of course stupidity is very hard to counteract in Court but by the time Animal Control admit the media on a case and tells them the house was stinking and they write it, a reputation is gone and the readers do believe everything they see in a paper. Pictures, photoshopped or not become evidence in the mind of readers.
In another case here, a senior was raided and her assistance dog taken away. In another reportage, the paper used the picture of her dog and wrote 'Another puppy mill closed in the area'. And mentioned the name of the village. She jumped and complained to the paper but too late.
In the last few cases my friend and I attended in Court, we noticed that inspectors insist on odors since it is very subjective in the mind of a judge. They always cite 'no ventilation' even though the air conditioner is on or windows open. They feel they don't have to prove it or that the mere mention in their testimony is sufficient as evidence. I think not.
1 August 2016
- Each breed has several very important dog shows that influence the future of the breed.
For Dobermans that's usually 1. IDC Sieger show, 2. World Championship, 3. ..., 4. National specialty shows. I left 3 blank for a reason because this show changes depending on some factors. German Sieger show in Dortmund used to be a big deal for Doberman fanciers until ban on cropping and docking was introduced. French Specialty show used to attract hundreds of breeders and show participants... until ban on cropping and docking was introduced. Water flows where there is less obstruction. So, breeders and show fanciers moved to where their cropped/docked dogs were not banned at the time - Italy, and its biggest specialty show AIAD.
The larger the show, the more dogs participating, the more value the titles hold.
Here are some AIAD Siegers of the 21st century - this will give you an idea where European breeding is heading.
see table (word)
31 July 2016
- Opinion on early spay/neuter:
"There is a wealth of information available on the repercussions of early s/n. It's basic biology, really. Sex hormones play a very important role in muscle
& bone development. Interrupt that natural growth cycle & things will go awry. Early spay & neuter has been linked to an increase in the risk of osteosarcoma,
hemangiosarcoma, decreased cognitive function & hypothyroidism, to name a few. I would never spay or neuter before 3."
31 July 2016
- Thought 1.
Purpose defines the process. If I'm interested in showing, I will be breeding dogs able to compete in the show ring.
If I'm interested in Schutzhund or agility or other sports, I will be breeding dogs able to perform.
If I'm interested in just pet breeding, I will not care about any of the above.
That's why a) show dogs are beautiful but fall behind in workability and longevity, b) working dogs usually have mediocre conformation, c) pet breeding is breeding without rules, anything will do, dogs that do look like Dobermans are bred without any thought of what this is going to do for the breed.
Read on one site yet another excuse of a breeder who just breeds: dogs don't have to prove themselves. A good excuse to not have to do any serious and dedicated work with the dogs.Working dogs have to prove they are working. Show dogs have to prove they are showable. And breeders have to prove their quality and professionalism by all of the above: working dogs for work and show dogs for show. That's how most important characteristics of any breed are preserved.
- Thought 2.
(In primitive words) Is a good dog - an accomplishment of a bad breeder or Mother Nature's work?
Is a bad dog - a good breeder's failure or Mother Nature's glitch?
30 July 2016
- Crate training your puppy is very important. Some, although, might call this inhumane, etc etc. Proper crate training will benefit the puppy as well as the owner in so many ways, including avoiding separation anxiety, faster house breaking, puppy safety.
Have a crate ready BEFORE bringing a dog in your home.
Here is the cheapest wire crate I have found so far: Frisco Fold & Carry Single Door Dog Crate, 18-inch - Chewy.com
29 July 2016
- "You can make a bag of sand pass AAFCO standards if you add the right vitamins and minerals to it."
ThatТs a pretty popular saying in the pet food industry.
And itТs true.
Pretty much anything (like sand, feathers, old shoes) could pass as a nutritionally-balanced pet food as long as powdered vitamins and minerals are added.
Why are dogs so sick? Why are they suffering from the same diseases humans suffer, including diabetes, cancer, allergies, liver disease, leaky gut and more?
The answer? We feed them the same processed foods that we eat. More: Dogs Naturally Magazine
13 July 2016
- Recently in the U.K., the Kennel Club released a report called the Pedigree Breed Health Survey, which provides a bit of insight for curious owners of purebred dogs.
The 2014 Pedigree Breed Health Survey is the largest of its kind to date, sent to 385,000 owners of 215 different breeds.
Survey Reveals Shocking Decline in Lifespan of Many Breeds
According to the 2014 survey results
The most common causes of death were "old age," unspecified types of cancer, unknown conditions, heart failure, and kidney failure
The 2014 survey also found that tragically, the average lifespan of a pedigree dog in the U.K. is just 10 years. In a 2004 Kennel Club report, the average was 11 years, 3 months.
This means the median longevity of Britain's purebred dogs has dropped by 11 percent in just a decade. The breeds with the most shocking lifespan decreases:
Police Dog Left in Hot Car During Training Exercise Dies. Corrections spokeswoman Amy Worden says the dog's handler didn't realize the dog was locked in the car. Dog handlers and other staff tried to cool Totti with a water hose and ice and took him to a nearby veterinary clinic, but he died that night. The department said Totti's death "has been very devastating for everyone involved."
Now imagine if this happened to the breeder. The breeder or show handler forgot a dog in the car and it died. What mass hysteria would follow! And no excuse would excuse the owner in the public's opinion. Do you know that several dozen high valued police dogs have died of heat while locked in police cars by their police handler in the past several years? #doublestandards #unfairtreatmentofbreeders #breederpejudice
6 July 2016
- And the first results of the new DCM test are here. Some reviews:
"Just got Stella's DCM 1 and DCM 2 results back. She was negative for both. I guess they have more research to do. She was diagnosed with chf dcm in November and is only 4."
"I just found out today about yet another dog with both forms of DCM and neg for both genes today. This is the 4th dog I know of."
The first DCM test has been around for 6 years, no progress with cardio in the breed. Now we have a new test and first results are already controversial.
I want to know the percentage of the dogs with the mutations and not dying of dcm vs those dying. Percentage of those tested positive and having the disease vs tested and healthy vs overall population.
I want to see other scientific research proving that the tests we are doing are valid. Because I see no improvement after the first test and now this one isn't solid proof either. Ughh.
15 June 2016
- One of the best modern Dobermans, fantastic WW.Grand Mollis Armani, passed away at the age of 8+ due to prostate cancer. We used his bloodlines through his son, Jankee.
5 June 2016
- Haven been victimized by AR (animal rights radicals) crazies, this article resonates with my past experiences. All I can say: people, open your eyes. Without us, breeders, there will be no purebred dogs you love so much and utilize in many aspects of human life, search and rescue, patrol, bomb detection.
Two years ago, while taking photographs, I met a 30-year- old horse named Arthur who belonged to an 88-year-old widower named James who was diagnosed with dementia and had to go live in a nursing home. James adored Arthur while he could, he gave him a wonderful life, and lived with the sweet old horse for 25 years. James always planned, when the time came, to euthanize Arthur or, if that proved impossible, to send him to a nearby slaughterhouse. The local slaughterhouse was close by, and was well-known for being humane. Slaughter was quick and painless, the horse and animal owners were always invited to come and watch if they wished, for their own peace of mind and to accompany their animals on their final passage.
In James world, this was considered the ethical way for animals to die.
JamesТs mind failed before he resolved ArthurТs fate. He had to leave his farm and could not bury Arthur there, as he hoped. The horse was too old to give away. James was not aware that the people who claim to speak for the rights of animals had lobbied Congress and state legislators to make the slaughterhouses of America illegal. Many functioned in rural communities close to the people in their communities. The animal rights groups were successful, there are no longer any horse slaughterhouses left in the United States.
But the number of horses without homes increased. The horses had to go somewhere. As often happens with issues relating to animals, no one had considered that the results of these good intentions would make the lives of the horses much, much worse.
When James left his farm, Arthur was seized by local authorities, given to a rescue farm that could not afford to care for him and did not have room for him. In a story now familiar to horse rescuers, Arthur was brought to an auction house and bought by a horse kill buyer (who worked for a slaughterhouse in Canada and Mexico, where horses are now sent to be killed.) Arthur, an old draft horse, was purchased for $200, taken to a feedlot where he was given little to eat, according to a relative of James who tracked his journey and tried to save him, put on a trailer and driven for 11 days through summer heat without ever once being allowed to move around or walk outside.
It is common knowledge in the horse world that these horses are treated harshly, the Mexican slaughterhouses in particular are not inclined to spend much money on fresh hay or water for horses that are about to be killed and sold as pet food, or even human food in some countries.
Arthur was jammed into a trailer with a dozen other horses, given little food or water, and transported in a way that evoked World War II concentration camps much more than the good life he had led. The relative still has nightmares thinking of what ArthurТs last days were like, how terrified he must have been, and how lonely. When Arthur got to Mexico, he was released into a crowded corral, given little to eat, and stood out in the heat for days. He was finally killed by having a three-inch nail driven into his head.
Arthur deserved a better fate than this, especially at the hands of human beings who claim to love animals so much that we owe them perfect lives but must be taken far away to die harshly. We need a better and wiser understanding of animal ethics than making emotional decisions without considering their consequences:
And horses will have to die for some time, there are far too many to care for and far too few resources. There are hundreds of thousands of unwanted horses in the United States with no one to care for them Ц 150,000 will go to slaughter this year; there are millions of dogs and cats leading cruel and unnatural lives languishing in crates in no-kill shelters all over the county. Yet we are constantly rescuing more, there is no natural limit to the number of animals in need.
In America, we are hobbled by an animal rights movement and political lobby that has lost any sense of empathy or common sense when it comes to even discussing the welfare of animals.
Good breeders who promote the best traits in animals being harassed and persecuted and driven from business; people are made to feel guilty for choosing their pets wisely and well. Dog lovers are afraid to ride with their pets in their cars. Farmers fear to have livestock visible from the road. Ponies are going to slaughter because it is now considered abuse for children to ride them; hundreds of elephants are being sentenced to almost certain death, driven from the circuses by people who claim to love them and insist they are being horribly mistreated, and people are so drawn to rescuing things that they scour the country, even other countries, looking for dogs and other animals for people to rescue.
This notion of animal ethics is not sustainable nor humane, nor ethical. We need a better understanding of animal ethics:
__ We need to understand that is not cruel for working animals to work, but essential to their health and future survival. Working animals ought never to be put in danger by being forcibly driven from caring and responsible homes with no clear sense of where they might go.
__ It is ethical to know fate of the animals we УsaveФ from abuse when we take their work and security away from them. Too often, we simply pat ourselves on the back for being virtuous while the animals we supposedly have helped go off to slaughter. We need to require the advocates of horse and animal and pony and other bans to know Ц and document Ц precisely where banished animals like horses and elephants and ponies will go, who will care for them and how their care will be funded.
__It is unethical to dislocate and endanger safe and healthy animals while more than 9 billion animals suffer daily in sometimes horrendous conditions in giant industrial animal farms set up by corporations who never seem to get harassed or raided, ticketed, shut down , or have their animals seized and re-homed. Meanwhile, farmers, animal lovers and private citizens are subjected to the raids and intrusions of the growing cadres of secret animal informers who patrol the countryТs farms, and the cities and suburbs and parking lots where people ride with their dogs.
An ethical animal rights or welfare system would target the people who truly abuse animals, and the animals who are truly abused, not those who do not. The New York carriage drivers, for example, are not the people who abuse animals, and the carriage horses are not the animals who are abused.
__We need a system of rescue that keeps animals in the lives and consciousness of everyday people and does not consistently send them off to isolation, lives of idleness at great costs, and almost certain extinction. Animals have the right to survive in our everyday lives, our people and children have the right to see them and know them. Domesticated animals with no work or connection with people vanish from the earth, that is their story and their history.
__ An ethical animal welfare movement must understand that there is no nature, no wild, for animals to return to any longer. There is no greater abuse of animals than the destruction of animal habitats all over the world, and we are all responsible for it. We need to acknowledge our own individual role in destroying the natural world rather than simply hating and harassing the people we blame for it, the people who work with animals, live with them, and yes, are the ones who kill them and take them to slaughter.
There is no place for domesticated animals to go when we drive them away and claim work with humans is cruel and abusive. Climate change challenges us to re-think our animals about where and how animals can remain in our world, there is mythical space out there for the carriage horses, the ponies, or the elephants to go when they are driven from their work, increasingly condemned as УabuseФ or Уstupid tricks.Ф Such tricks have uplifted and entertained human beings for thousands of years, a debt that can never be repaid.
We are condemning these animals Ц the ponies, the carriage horses, the elephants Ц to a death much like ArthurТs. That is not an ethical solution to their dilemma.
__We need to make good and hard decisions about which animals can be saved, and which cannot. Asian elephants and draft horses are not killer whales, who have never been domesticated or worked for long periods with people. Animals are different, they require different solutions and support. It is humane and ethical to free killer whales and return them to the ocean, it is merciful and possible. It is the cruelest kind of abuse to take carriage horses away from their human beings and force them onto rescue farms, where they will have no human contact, no work and nothing to do but eat hay and drop manure.
__Adoptable, healthy dogs with good temperaments are vanishing from many public shelters while rescue groups guickly take in adoptable dogs, often for people who can afford them, and leave others to pick from dogs that are often unhealthy, traumatized or troubled. Is this really humane or ethical? Our system of animal rescue, shelter and adoption routinely separate the poor the elderly and working people from animals, even though millions desperately need homes.
(A Cleveland man was denied the right to adopt a dog because he said he wanted to walk it off leash in the country sometimes, an elderly woman denied a cat because she wanted it to spend time in her garden, a carpenter denied a dog because worked six or seven days a week, a New York carriage driver and his family were denied a dog because the shelter thought it was abuse for a horse to pull carriages.)
__It is unethical to force countless or damaged dogs into society that hurt people, especially children. According to the CDC, dog bites are now epidemic, increasing at the rate of 47 per cent a year. Most of these bites are on the faces and necks of small children, who are low to the ground. Many require treatment for trauma and extensive and expensive facial surgery reconstruction. Some dogs cry out for rescue, some do not. Dogs do not make moral decisions, it is never their fault when they harm someone. That does not mean they have to flood our crowded society while carriage horses Ц who never harm anyone Ц are sent away.
__It is unethical to manipulate people by claiming the only way to get a dog is to rescue one. There are many good ways to get a dog or cat, including rescuing one. It is ethical to acquire a dog in a careful and thoughtful way. It is ethical to get an animal in a way that is a wise and rational Ц and safe Ц choice for people and their families. It is ethical to get a dog or cat that will be content and make his or her new family happy.
__We need an ethical understanding of the fact that good breeders Ц like good rescue organizations Ц promote the best traits in dogs: good temperament, healthy bodies and immune systems, loyalty and affection to people. It is not ethical to promote the adoption or purchase of dogs that hurt people or other animals. Try to remember where those photogenic and appealing herding dogs actually come from.
ЧIt is unethical to fail to regulate breeders or rescue organizations. They breed and sell and place living beings. They should be supervised and overseen in the same way that the New York Carriage Horses are regulated, subject to inspections and the adoption of healthy breeding and living conditions. The best gift that many dogs and cats can be given Ц millions are abandoned, returned, imprisoned in shelters for years, or lifetimes Ц may be to not come into the world at all. If there are millions in shelters, then there are too many animals.
__The goal of any animal rights movement ought to be the promotion of health and safety for animals in our every day world, not their removal from society. It is unethical to make it ever more difficult for ordinary people Ц the poor, the working, the elderly Ц to adopt, purchase, or keep animals. It is unethical to seek to remove animals that are healthy and well cared for.
__It is unethical to use the love of animals as a pretext for hating and harming people. The people who live and live with animals are entitled to the same dignity and respect as dogs and cats and horses.
Ethics are important, they are the moral principles that govern a personТs or groupТs or a societyТs behavior.
The animal rescue impulse is noble, and has saved the lives of many animals. But like all social movements, it requires balance, thoughtfulness and nuance and perspective.
Our deep love for animals makes rational argument about the right and wrong way to treat them difficult.
And as of now, there is little rational argument about animal ethics, the current ethos argues that the lives of all animals are precious, animals have equal, even superior rights than human beings, and animals must be given perfect lives and kept alive at all costs by any means. This widespread and fiercely defended ideology is not, to me, ethical or merciful, it is actually causing much suffering to people and to animals, and greatly accelerating the disappearance of animals from their habitats and from ours, and thus from the world.
For me, the ethical standard for caring for animals is simple: We must do the best we can for each animal for as long as we can. And then, we must recognize our own limits and the limits of society, and act accordingly, according to individual circumstance and conscience. There is no single ethical standard for animal life. We cannot say every horse in the world needs to work or every horse in the world does not, this is part of an almost sacred contract between society and the animal world, and the individual and his animal.
Arthur the horse was a victim of our muddled notion of animal ethics. Our notions of animal rights and welfare failed him in the cruelest possible way. He was ultimately doomed and abandoned by a system of animal care that often exists to make people feel better, but that leaves animals to an awful fate.
3 June 2016
- Killing dogs with blogs. htpuppiescb.com/killingdogswithblogs.htm I recently was approached by a known blogger with a question asking me what a given list of breeder slanderous terms meant to me as a breeder. I was seeing her post on social media outlets and found her to be consistent with
hate filled AR slanted words yet she brags of how she Уsupports responsible breedingФ. I advised her of her choice in words with each post hoping to educate a person whose heart I felt was in the right place. When she posed
the question to me I chose to seek the advice of much wiser mentors to include their response with mine.
I took much time and put much thought into her question of what these terms mean to me and the world of purebred dogs. I thought for sure my own writings could remove the blinders from her eyes and she would see how much her public words hurt all breeders whether she thought they were good or bad.
I was wrong yet againЕ
The blogger sent a short message of УWe'll have to agree to disagree on this issue. I tend to continue to share information about (AR breeder slander term used), finding reputable breeders, and working to remove puppies from pet stores, so I removed our friendship connection to avoid future offense. I wish you the best in raising awareness for breeders.Ф
The blogger is also urging others to buy from Уresponsible breedersФ however when I asked what УresponsibleФ meant to her this was the response.
УI haven't delved into the world of breeders and what they deal with; I just know what a reputable breeder looks like, because I asked local breeders about their practices and was blown away.Ф
Who would have thought? So close but still an Уepic failФ
Here is the thingЕI do not have to agree to anything not even the fact we disagree. I know we disagree I can see that. There is no need to come to an agreement on the fact we do.
This woman and her blogs are a dime a dozen, it seems nowadays all you have to do is once own a childhood pet just to be a dog expert in health, diet, breeding and ownership. There is no certificate, no classes, diplomas or seminars needed; you simply pay for a domain and voila you are now a professional expert in all things dogs.
What happens next? People read your rhetoric and take it as fact. They post it everywhere making claims that it must be true because their web browser has found it. It then falls into the mouths of more uneducated and
travels through our dog world like a plague. Plagues that will kill our purebred dog with the use of their own words against us Еnow remember they Уsupport responsibleФ.
"I really do not want this type of support and I can say from listening to others in the dog world no one wants it when it comes as a double edged sword.
It is actually a scary thought the advice one will offer in a blog. Where do they find out this info? The same place their readers have found theirsЕmedia and the internet. It is a simple regurgitation of the PeTA, ASPCA and HSUS websites. I have seen bloggers speak on how to raise a puppy, yet when asked not one even experienced the birth of a puppy. Some never even owned a dog as a puppy and if they did they were at grade school age. How many
here have a grade school age child actually have full responsibility of a puppy? AnyoneЕ?
We need to stop supporting these fly by night dog experts and we need to do it now. Pet owners read this and believe it to be true then the next thing you know they are no longer pet owners they are Уdog moms with fur babiesФ
We would not listen when HSUS told us to do it but this new blogger is cute and witty so she must be right. Chalk one more win up to losing your rights as a pet owner. Bye, bye doggies.
Do not only choose your own words wisely to keep your rights as an owner and or breeder; refuse to support anyone who throws them into the face of the public as sheer fact for you to have to defend later.
I will leave you with how I responded to her and with my mentorsТ who have raised, loved, owned and worked with dogs for more than 200 years combined educated and experienced advice on the subject".
31 May 2016
- Some useful info on the new DCM testing.
% of dogs that develop the disease with DCM1 only (PDK4) 37%
% of dogs that develop the disease with DCM2 only 50%
% of dogs that develop the disease with both 60%.
The DCM2 mutation is in a gene associated with heart contractions. Every dog that Dr. Meurs has studied, that has the disease, had either DCM1, DCM2, or both.
30 May 2016
- 4-year old Tasha came for a visit. Massive lady. #ourbreeding
18 May 2016
- Victoria finished puppy kindergarten with her pup.
15 May 2016
- 2 cropped are our breeding. Owner's FB photos.
1 May 2016
- Breaking news:
Doberman owners should be aware that a second gene involved with Doberman cardiomyopathy has been identified. See below.
From Dr. Meurs:
"We now know that two mutations can each independently lead to the disease, PDK4 and NCSU DCM2. Although the penetrance (what % of dogs develop the disease if they
have only that mutation) is only about 50% for each, we now know that it is the COMBINATION of BOTH the PDK4 mutation AND the second mutation, NCSU DCM2 that lead to
the highest risk. In the next few days we will send out the results of the people who have sent us the swabs as part of our research this spring but we now have the new
test on the web site."
Good news. However, Doberman owners shouldn't put all their faith into the new test until the researchers have more solid data on the % of cases this mutation is
26 April 2016
- Budget alternatives. Some of the most common meds needed for puppies and adults are dewormers and flea/tick treatments. Here is what you can get at Walmart for a fraction of well promoted, sold at vet clinics, expensive brands. And the dewormer "Safeguard" is a broad-spectrum one, compared to a more expensive Panacur.
22 April 2016
- Catherine with Canis Maximus Lukki learning show handling.
21 April 2016
- Think About the Breed's Future - the final Gazette Article by Faye StraussЈ
THINK ABOUT THE BREED'S FUTURE
As this is my last article as your Doberman correspondent, I will be touching on a few subjects. To begin with, I have an update. How to Judge the Doberman Pinscher, the YouTube video by the Doberman Pinscher Club of America's Judges' Education Committee, has over 50,000 views in five months! Very encouraging. (Watch the YouTube video.) Second, our puppy owners need to be educated. Not only should they be informed about how to properly care for and train their dogs, but also they need to familiarize themselves with the standard so they can view our breed intelligently. They need to understand what a Doberman is all about, inside and outside the ring. This is why mentoring is so important. If you are an experienced breeder or exhibitor, please reach out and share your knowledge with newbies. New people are the future of our sport. What happens at ringside determines who will stay. Please encourage and not discourage. Good ringside etiquette is essential. Third, every time I walk my dog people say, "We never see these dogs anymore." When I started in the breed, show entries of 150 Dobermans were very common. Dobes were one of the five most popular breeds. Today we are almost a rare breed. The entries keep decreasing. It takes only 11 dogs for a 4-point
major in my area-this is pitiful. The reason for the low entries is that very few people are breeding. As I said in a recent column, we have subconsciously adopted the animal-rights
agenda of "Don't breed your dog," for myriad reasons. Recently, someone made a blog post denigrating a breeder for breeding a bitch whose littermate had missing teeth. Really? As a
breeder who has bred for over 40 years, I can tell you, breed long enough, and you will get everything. If we don't breed our healthy dogs, who will? Disparaging someone for breeding a
healthy dog does the breed a disservice. Remember, ignorance is bliss. Talk to a new breeder, and their dogs are always healthy and they never have any problems. Go to Europe,
and all the dogs live forever. Maybe we should stop breeding in America; that is just what the animal-rights promoters want. We need to encourage breeders. They are the key to our breed's viability and longevity.
Do all the sports you want, but if you don't have a Doberman breeder, you won't have Dobermans in the competition. Unfortunately, many new owners who have champions or top working dogs don't want to breed their dogs.
Animal-rights attitudes have made us think that breeders are doing too much breeding. Maybe it is time we rethink our position. Today, I don't know who to recommend when people call about purchasing a dog. It is
sad that breeders I know have a long waiting list for their puppies. I fear these new people will go to the backyard breeder in the newspaper because the reputable breeders don't have pups.
Finally, one of the most profound influences in today's society is the Internet. It is truly a double-edged sword. It can be an excellent tool
for educating and promoting useful information. However, there are those who have misused and abused this form of communication to hurt and defame people. The cyber-bashing
has caused many people to leave this breed. Cyberbullying is a leading cause of malcontent among Doberman fanciers. It's a sad state of
affairs when people purposely feel the need to cause havoc and mistrust within the fancy. We love our breed; let's work together to
promote our intelligent and beautiful dogs. Show camaraderie for the other brilliant people who own our wonderful dogs. Congratulate them on their accomplishments. Encourage owners of quality specimens, and applaud their success.
-Faye Strauss, firstname.lastname@example.org
Doberman Pinscher Club of America, http://www.dpca.org
19 April 2016
- RIP Ruger. Condolences to his family. #tears
I wanted to update you. Ruger passed away this last Sunday. He hadn't eaten in over 4 days except for food we would force feed him so
that he could take his medication. Even with his medications it became increasingly obvious that the pain was getting worse. () By Sunday he could not get comfortable at all - he was pacing all over the house. When he did lay down he would get up shortly after - he just could not rest. He was obviously in a lot of pain.
() Over the years we have had several Dogs, most of which have been Dobermans. My husband has had even more experience with them; he
grew up with them throughout his life. Ruger was absolutely the best doberman we have ever had a chance to know. He was beyond beautiful
and had an outstanding temperament. He just all around was a fantastic pup. We all loved him immensely and he is very very missed.
One of Frank's coworkers said that in her religion they believe in reincarnation, and that the dog is the last animal a soul inhabits until they become a person. If there is any truth in that then he definitely had a short life because he was such an outstanding soul.
15 April 2016
September 18, 2015 Ј
Today is a black day for us.
Our Pride of Russia Uriel (Urbano del Diamante Nero x Barselona Brava iz Doma Domeni) died today 18th of September 2015 at the age of not even 5 years and 2 months.
She just dropped dead at playing with the ball.
Our beloved Dita was never ill before, never had any signs of heartproblems. She used to be completly healthy until she just dropped dead today.
After over 2...0 years of dobermann addiction i announce that we will not have a dobermann any more. The breed is simply too ill and we don't want to live through this pain again and again and again. To all breeders and lovers of this breed who still don't see the urge to change something in breeding techniques and who don't understand that this breed is so sick that it needs more than heartchecks to change anything we wish all the best. My rayers are with you that you don't have to go through the same pain as i go through now.
The dobermann is in the middle of an inbreeding depression and the only salvage is creating new genetics by crossbreeding with other breeds.
Until the great politicians, breeders, judges and other experts don't understand that there is nothing wrong with breeding the dobermann with the next smaller sized dogs of the same group like for example the german pinschers who live 12 + years to create new genetics this whole breed will remain ill. you can heartcheck your dogs every year but if it is meant for them to drop dead at 5 they still will and if you find out at 5 years of age that your female or male has DCM you still were spreading the bad genetics.
The only salvage is creating new genetics through a FCI supervised breeding program.
I am willing to be the first to keep a F1 Generation dog out of a Dobermann x German Pincher combination in order to creat a neg genetical base for the Dobermann breed.
It is high time for all of us to stop lying and open up the eyes.
11 April 2016
- Why predicting DCM in your dog is so tricky? Take a look at this pedigree: http://doberbase.ru/index.php?a=dog&id=201849&name=Ingmar+iz+Zoosfery Ingmar iz Zoosfery. DCM at 5yo. But both parents are alive. Dad is 8 and mom is turning 9 this year, and yet their progeny died at 5 of DCM.
Yes, it is enough for just one parent to be a carrier to pass the bad gene mutation to the progeny, and it can be floating through bloodlines, from just one ancestor, through generations to this particular dog. And no matter how many long lived dogs you used, it can still pop up. Isn't this crazy? That's why it is so hard to eradicate the disease in Dobermans.
10 March 2016
- "That's why we need breeders of purebred dogs today. People who breed to preserve dog breeds are usually hobbyists. They may participate in dog shows or companion/performance events with their dogs. The dogs that they can't keep are usually placed in pet homes. Yet cities and state
legislatures are passing laws that can make it virtually impossible for smaller breeders to continue this important work..."
Why We Need Purebred Dog Breeders
9 March 2016
9 March 2016
8 March 2016
- S 8 Marta!
8 March 2016
- How males mature.
Doberman active growth stops around 9 months, after that they stay elegant and lanky for quite a while (the "ugly" phase, in my opinion, is from 7 to 18 months), at 1.5-2.5 yo they start maturing and bulking up. Here is multi-champion Midgard - puppyhood to the age of 7. See the difference.
7 March 2016
- I am a breeder.
"How I live"
what my friends think what my family thinks what my neighbors think
what others think how my vet lives my life in reality
7 March 2016
- Our breeding. Eragon's gorgeous baby.
7 March 2016
- Ears or no ears?
I personally think that this should be the owner's choice.
6 March 2016
- Ear crops: long vs short.
4 March 2016
- Kids finished puppy kindergarten.
4 March 2016
- How AR (animal rights radicals) infiltrate the government:
Situation: One senator sponsors a bill restricting animal ownership. Of course, it is presented as something that will be better for the animals and their owners. A concerned citizen with some logic analyzes the bill and contacts the senator voicing concerns and pointing out discrepancies:
(Bill SF 2289 will be put forth today for floor debate. Frankly, I have grave concerns about this bill.
1. Specifically how does increasing classifications and punishment stop someone from committing one of these acts? Has increasing punishment, even the death penalty prevented anyone from doing so if they are intent to do so? There is NOT one single crime that has been stopped, is there? Ever?
2. What specifically does physically present entail ? Proximity, actually witnessing/participating, present on property?
3. What about an act committed unwittingly, unknowingly? Or, what about an act that someone perceived as cruelty, but really was a circumstance of normal care? Think about the recent incidences in S.D. and N.H. In both instances a dog of northern breed, those breed to withstand and even thrive in frigid temperatures were outside for a period of a few hours or fairly frequently were turned in for abuse. A mother arrested in front of her children. all because a neighbor THOUGHT the animal was being mistreated in their OPINION. Lives turned upside down based on OPINION, not fact.
4. Mandatory reporting by vets. What if the circumstance a customer described is really the truth, but the vet has a different opinion? The vet was not there, just a guess.
5. Mandatory reporting to DHS. True there is the citation of studies ALLEGEDLY showing a connection of animal abuse to child abuse. How many of you/us could be considered animal abusers at some point in time in our lives? Kill a mouse, swat a fly, spank a dog, pull the legs off a spider? In some people's eyes that is abuse. Did you become a child abuser?
6. Immunity from civil/criminal penalty for a report in good faith. One time is understandable, but, when does good faith end an harassment begin???? What rights does a person have to protect themselves from harassment from a grumpy neighbor or a person that doesn't believe someone should keep an animal other than the way their OPINION thinks it should be kept?
7. Now, think long and hard about how this very bill that you are considering could possibly come back and bite you, your family, friend, neighbor? Could you possibly be one of the two above examples?
8. How will this affect/farmers/ranchers? Is this a portal that the Humane Society of the U.S. would like to use to further dictate the treatment of livestock? Read very carefully the verbage. Pg. 17, Lines 21-26: "....amends Code chapter 717B prohibiting the mistreatment of certain animals, including dogs and cats but excluding other animals such as livestock (Code chapter 717): fur-bearing animals, fish, reptiles, or amphibians(Code chapter481A) , UNLESS such an animal is OWNED, CONFINED, OR CONTROLLED BY A PERSON..." I have been told that two persons with legal experience, one a lawyer, ex JAG officer, both independently interpreted this as livestock included.
Just how necessary is this bill to begin with???
One final thought. We know this is an election year and there are people out there that have no problem with the "whispers in the ear." I do NOT advocate that type of action. I have seen it in successful operation two yrs. ago. I sincerely hope each one of you has the integrity to cast your vote based on the merits of the bill and of Iowa citizens' opinions and reasons.
Thank you for you consideration and have a nice day!)
And here is the response from the SENATOR:
" Wow- You always pop up whenever anyone wants to protect animals. It seems you are uncomfortable with any legislation that works to protect domestic animals in our state. I wonder what darkness lives in your soul. I hope you donТt have any animals that rely on you for direct care.
State Senator District 21"
Do you think he is going to win his re-election with such attitude? And one might wonder why he sponsored that bill...
3 March 2016
- All-natural feeding.
Yes, it is time consuming. And not all dogs transition well but it is natural. It improves your dog's health and quality of life.
Protein source: beef, horse meat, lean pork, turkey, chicken (whole chicken), animal hearts, gizzards, fish.
10-15% of meat intake: liver, entrails.
2-3 times a week - animal meat, the rest - fish, poultry.
Wild animal meat is usually infected with a whole lot of nasty stuff like worms.
Best all-natural diet has to be diverse.
Plus ground veggies (carrots, greens, pumpkin), oats, eggs and cottage cheese.
Here is a week of gourmet dishes:
2 March 2016
- No comment:
1 March 2016
- I am PRO-animal welfare. I am PRO-breeder. I am ANTI-animal rights radicalism.
29 February 2016
- Don't buy a Doberman: 1. If you are lazy.
2. If you are impatient.
3. If you are aggressive, or have sadistic tendencies.
4. If you can crate the dog for the whole day and be OK with that.
5. If you can lose your temper if your favorite things get chewed up.
6. If you don't have extra money saved up for extra care or emergency situations.
7. with your last money.
8. If you are pregnant.
9. If you are about to get married.
10. If you plan to move.
11. If you have no back-up plan in case of a divorce/break-up/job loss/house loss.
12. If you have no space for a large dog.
13. If you have nowhere to walk the dog safely.
14. If you can't properly exercise the dog DAILY.
15. If you work long hours.
16. If you are not willing to do training.
17. If you are too young/small/not strong enough to handle a large dog.
18. If you have very small kids.
19. If you are the only one in your household wanting one.
20. If you are afraid of large dogs.
21. If your family is allergic to dogs.
22. If your landlord/HOA doesn't allow dogs.
23. for prestige.
24. to boost self-confidence.
25. for fighting.
26. for vanity.
27. If you cannot care for one properly.
28. If your life focus cannot switch from yourself onto the dog.
29. If you cannot imagine yourself walking and playing with the dog when you are sick, or when it's pouring or snowing outside.
30. If your children do not know how to treat and handle a large dog.
31. If a dog can become an annoying burden.
32. If animals annoy you.
33. If you are not sure the breed fits your temperament and lifestyle.
34. If you know nothing about the breed.
35. as a gift if you are not completely sure the gift will be timely and appreciated.
28 February 2016
- ...Continued... Breeder classification.
I've posted a few classifications in my blog. They are all designed for the purpose of helping the buyer, but in most cases they are incorrect, biased, and only confuse the buyer plus misrepresent the breeder.
I've put a LOT of thought into this and here is what I've come up with.
Main point: don't let anybody else classify breeders for you, go visit, meet the breeder, and see for yourself what category they fall into.
By size - number of dogs. I think it is incorrect to categorize breeders by the number of animals they have. Most states and counties have codes that specify commercial breeders by the number, and this differs drastically from state to state. This is a very subjective, not objective, factor. For example, hunting kennels traditionally maintain a larger number of dogs due to the nature of hunting breeds/breeding/activities.
It is also often misunderstood by the public what is behind these numbers. Let's say, I have 3 old (retired) mastiffs, 2 stud mastiffs, 5 brood females, and 3 young puppy mastiffs for future work/showing. That's a total of 13 mastiffs! To a regular person one, max two, mastiff is more than enough, and 13 will put that person in a state of shock. And the typical question is: "Why do you need 13 mastiffs???!!!" A regular person also is fast to assume that all these 13 mastiffs are being actively bred, and in reality it's only 5.
You have to keep your old. Without the past you won't know the future. You have to keep active brood females to keep your program going. And you have to keep the young, because this is your business card, the face of your kennel, the result of your work and the future of what you plan to accomplish.
The number of dogs depends on the breeder's lifestyle and goals. Nothing more. And selection is what keeps these numbers manageable for the owner.
By purpose (objective classification): I. Hobby (breeders who breed for show, work, sports - these are all hobbies)
or Commercial (breeders who breed just to sell)
- In order to be a hobby breeder, as long as you continuously breed, you have to continuously prove you fall into this category, so participating in dog activities (competitive activities!) is the key. As soon as you stop showing/titling/trialing your dogs, you transition to the commercial breeder category.
- Commercial breeders are not the ones who have a certain number of dogs as set by various local governments. It's the ones who breed for the sole purpose of selling. That's where the so-called puppymills and other 'nice names' will be.
Technically, there is no such thing as a puppymill or a backyard breeder. Why? Well, what is a puppymill? Or a backyard breeder? Somebody who breeds in the back? Most dogs are bred outside. Puppies raised in the back? Meaning they are kept in the back, in the open air? Then that's animal neglect. What does this really mean?
None of these words mean anything because there are no real criteria supporting these labels. Is it 3 dogs and you are a good breeder and 4 - a puppymill? Is it 20 puppies and you are a reputable breeder and 21 will make you a puppymill, and then next year you are back to 20 and back to being a reputable breeder again?
Ask a hundred people what a puppymill or a backyard breeder is, and what they are going to have as the answer will be images, images carefully and meticulously planted into the people's minds through Animal Cops on TV, various exposes, and regular raids presented as good deeds. All this is real-life propaganda and most people have been so brainwashed that all they need to hear is the key word (puppymill, neglect, odor, feces, abuse) and any logic quickly disappears.
Puppymills don't exist just like there are no such creatures as assholes or dumbasses (continue the list).
So-called puppymills are simply commercial breeders, some with poor level of animal care, but calling them commercial breeders will defeat the purpose, and the purpose is to:
a. find the breeder.
b. vilify the breeder.
c. take possession of the animals.
This is how modern Animal Rights Activism operates. It's no longer the fight for the animals. It's the fight for their ideology, and animals are just tools.
A breeder is a person who breeds animals. A kennel is where the owner breeds/trains/boards/adopts animals. All this is very clear. And what is a puppymill or a backyard breeder? A puppymill is.... All you get is an image of stacked cages, sad looking dogs, poop. Image - TV - propaganda. A backyard breeder is a person who... Really, who? What's the criteria for becoming one?
I've been called all kinds of names. I don't follow the propaganda rules. But I do have good dogs.
So, as you see, name-calling, being it 'puppymill' or 'jerk' or 'a-hole', is only used by people to:
1. express their PERSONAL opinion,
2. show negativity,
3. hurt the other person.
What is a good teacher? Ask your child: the one who is kind, doesn't yell, gives good grades and candy, doesn't ask too much. Ask an education professional:
the one who is effective and follows teaching guidelines, ethics and standards.
II. Amateur or
Professional. Amateur - new breeders, breeders breeding 'for pet', breeders breeding just to breed.
Professional - adhering to the standard, proving dogs' quality, maintaining breeders' ethics, constantly improving their bloodlines.
By quality (subjective classification):
Can be: * satisfactory
* needs improvement
1. By puppy quality.
2. By quality of animal care.
3. By breeding program quality.
As you see, only the buyer or the industry professionals (judges) can objectively and/or subjectively classify the breeder.
Protect your breeders.
...to be continued...
3 February 2016
- Stress related dandruff in your Doberman.
Many vets don't know about this. Last summer my puppy buyer and I went to his vet for a puppy check-up. And the boy got this salt looking dandruff around his neck. Vet said he never heard of dandruff coming and going in stressful or new situations. And send the buyer home with medicated shampoos.
First time I had to deal with this was when we started showing or first Dobermans. This dandruff would cover the neck and top of the back as soon as we walked inside the expo center. And it would miraculously disappear by the time we got home.
Now if dandruff looks flaky and is persistent, and the coat is dull and dry, then there are other underlying causes than stress.
2 February 2016
- Kids first experience with puppy training. @kennelclub.
1 February 2016
- Piece of my life story.
I was born in the USSR. "Made in USSR". heh heh. I was blessed with a unique historic chance to have lived during socialism-communism, through its collapse and the chaos that ensued, and then through new democracy. The post-USSR capitalism was pretty much a dollar rush: to have more money, more, MORE. Everybody tried to survive.
At that time I thought that the main goal in life was to have a lot of money so you had nothing to worry about. Such a stark difference with the Soviet ideology where everybody had just enough to get what people needed and everybody had the same (according to their job positions and occupations).
Breeding world in the Soviet Union was centralized, planned by the club, no individual kennels. Which wasn't that bad for the breeds. Dogs were bred professionally. With the collapse of the Soviet Union that changed as well, everybody tried to register their own kennel and be independent. Sometime around then I got my first Doberman. He cost a few hundred dollars - lots of money at that time! When he died, we got another one. I was tutoring to pay for dog shows and travel. Having a kennel never really crossed my mind. I was studying, traveling, going to dog shows, going out with friends. Youth... Then came marriage and time to move. Our doberman came along, of course. We showed all over Europe. Our male had one problem - separation anxiety. I'd come home from work, and find German neighbors standing in front of my windows discussing how our dog was howling and disrupting German peace all day long. We got him a girlfriend. Howling stopped.
Eventually we got to the States. Dogs came with us.
Life was different. While in Germany, dog shows and training clubs were everywhere. And here you have to drive for at least an hour to get to a club, which is not a good option when you have kids and dogs and pups. And not every club is open to new members. So, the dream to have our own club or a trainer started cooking in my brain. Having an appropriate location with a kennel was the first step. We looked and looked, and finally found a great property, 5ac, with an almost 1000sqf barn and a big fenced walking area. It was perfect. The place was beautiful, serene, spacious. Oh, how I loved it. So much space for the dogs.
Numerous times my husband questioned my choice of being a breeder. "You have two Masters degrees, and clean dog poop! Why can't you find a cleaner job?!" For many years he couldn't understand why I was doing what I was doing. The thing is, you cannot put your ideas into the other person's head and expect that person to live like you do. What's good for you may not be good for that person. Quite often parents push their kids into something THEY think will be a good occupation stripping their offspring of their free choice. I have worked at school, at a bank, and a few other businesses, DOD included. I'd get bored within 2-3 months - as soon as I figure out what needs to be done and how things operate. But I've never been bored working with dogs even though it's a lot of routine work. I love working with dogs. I can't imagine not having a Doberman in my life. That started well before the kennel. That was my choice. I never regretted it. I've learnt my life lessons through my 'dog work'. I've changed through it. I may change my mind and do something else in the future, but it will be MY choice.
We are born with a set of talents - gifts given to us at birth. Through our first years these talents are developed into skills which we utilize during the rest of our life and with the help of which we solve our life tasks. These gifts have to be given back. Can you imagine Celine Dion working as a bank teller wasting her God-given gift? When passion and talent come together, this makes the person the happiest.
I've always loved dogs, Dobermans in particular, and I am creative. Where would these two things unite? Right, kennel. So, here are I am.
While in my teens, as a result of the communist collapse, our way of thinking was: get lots of money - you'll be happy. Everything was so materialistic. Through my 'dog work' that has changed, I've changed. I am very indifferent to material things nowadays. I'm indifferent to the type of phone I have as long as it is functional. Cars have value to me based on how much can be put inside. I don't care about jewelry. And almost everything I want I can get (and there isn't much that I want), I am modest about Birthday gifts. For Valentine's day I only ask for cards. I'm indifferent to the size of the engagement ring. Money has only value - it's a tool which helps you accomplish your goals. What I make is spent back on the dogs.
Eventually it became clear that living together with the dogs, while operating a kennel, working with the public, was not living at all. I was too absorbed in my dogs: clean-feed-walk-repeat. That left too little for the life itself. You are given life not to self-absorb in one particular thing so that you stop seeing what is happening around you, and especially within you. So, I threw in the idea of having a separate location for the dogs, which was not supported by my 'men', and I embarked on a journey of getting a new kennel permit at the location we were living in.
And then 2013 happened. And my life turned.
To be continued...
31 January 2016
- Male or female?
This is a matter of personal preference. But if you have no experience raising a Doberman, a medium to low drive female as a 'starter Dobe' is recommended. Genetics, environment and the amount of time dedicated to the new dog will determine how good of an experience you are going to have with your dog.
Males. - Look more attractive due to size.
- Simple. Predictable.
- You have to prove them you are the boss regularly.
Females. - More flexible, adaptable, maternal.
- Cunning. Smart.
- Great for kids.
- Mature faster.
All rules have exceptions! Follow your heart. And to have the dog happy exercise it as much as you can: long walks, active playtime, training.
30 January 2016
- Treats for training. Here are the best options. Softened dry food, chopped cheese or all beef dog kilbasa. Don't use dry dog food as a reward (our puppy class trainer does), dog food is for eating, puppies need something new and tastier to have more motivation in training.
1. HSUS raises millions of dollars from American animal lovers through
manipulative advertising. An analysis of HSUS's TV fundraising determined
that more than 85 percent of the animals shown were cats and dogs. However,
HSUS doesn't run a single pet shelter and only gives 1 percent of the money
it raises to pet shelters while sucking money out of local communities.
2. HSUS's own donors and local shelters feel wronged. A poll of
self-identified HSUS donors found 80 percent thought HSUS "misleads people"
about their connections to pet shelters and 75 percent were less likely to
support the group when they found out the truth. And according to a poll of
animal shelters most agree that "HSUS misleads people into thinking it is
associated with local animal shelters."
3. HSUS puts more into its pension plan and Caribbean hedge funds than it
gives to pet shelters. Between 2012 and 2014, HSUS put over $100 million in
Caribbean investments while also putting nearly $10 million into its pension
4. While it raises money with pictures of cats and dogs, HSUS has an
anti-meat vegan agenda. Speaking to an animal rights conference in 2006,
HSUS's then-vice president for farm animal issues stated that HSUS's goal is
to "get rid of the entire [animal agriculture] industry" and that "we don't
want any of these animals to be raised and killed."
5. In May 2014, HSUS was part of a $15.75 million settlement of a federal
racketeering lawsuit. Feld Entertainment sued HSUS, two of its in-house
lawyers, and others under the Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations
(RICO) Act for bribery, obstruction of justice, fraud, and other torts.
Court documents indicate that HSUS sent several checks as part of an alleged
6. HSUS's senior management includes others who have voiced support for
terroristic acts. HSUS chief policy officer Mike Markarian has written that
"A perfect example of effective rebellion is an Animal Liberation Front raid
on a laboratory." HSUS food policy director Matt Prescott, meanwhile, has
written that "I also believe in the actions of the ALF and other such
groups." (Prescott is a former PETA activist.)
7. HSUS's senior management includes a former spokesman for the Animal
Liberation Front (ALF), a criminal group designated as "terrorists" by the
FBI. HSUS president Wayne Pacelle hired John "J.P." Goodwin in 1997, the
same year Goodwin described himself as "spokesperson for the ALF" while he
fielded media calls in the wake of an ALF arson attack at a California meat
processing plant. In 1997, when asked by reporters for a reaction to an ALF
arson fire at a farmer's feed co-op in Utah (which nearly killed a family
sleeping on the premises), Goodwin replied, "We're ecstatic."
8. HSUS receives poor charity-evaluation marks. CharityWatch (formerly the
American Institute of Philanthropy) has issued several "D" ratings for HSUS
in recent years over the group's wasteful spending practices. Additionally,
the 2013 Animal People News Watchdog Report discovered that HSUS spends 55
percent of its budget on overhead costs.
9. HSUS's CEO endorsed convicted dogfighting kingpin Michael Vick getting
another pet. After Vick got out of prison, HSUS CEO Wayne Pacelle told the
press that he thought Vick "would do a good job as a pet owner." This
startling comment came after Vick's new employer, the Philadelphia Eagle,
made a $50,000 "grant" to HSUS.
10. Given the massive size of its budget, HSUS does relatively little
hands-on care for animals. While HSUS claims it "saves" more animals than
any other animal protection group in the US, much of the "care" HSUS
provides is in the form of spay-neuter assistance. In fact, local groups
that operate on considerably slimmer budgets, such as the Houston SPCA,
provide direct care to more animals than HSUS does.
10 January 2016
- Samples needed from Dobermans ten years and older for DCM research. Possibly a new gene mutation identified that is also responsible for DCM.
1 January 2016
- My most favorite holidays: New Year and Victory Day in Russia. Happy New Year!
It's the time when you sort of sum up all you did in the past year and dream of what you want to do next year. And this made me thinking: it's been almost 10 years since we moved to the States with our dogs, what have I accomplished?
My biggest accomplishment in the past 2 years is, of course, the new kennel+house. I couldn't be more proud. But my biggest gift to the breed and accomplishment for the breed is... this website.
With thousands of visitors every week, this website has become more of a Doberman encyclopedia of practical knowledge. Hope you all enjoy it in the coming years!